Apple Says iPhones Will Better Support Third-Party Displays and Batteries Later This Year

[TheNewLou]

In fact, an Apple internal analysis has found that some third-party batteries sold as new are actually secondhand

What percentage, Apple? 50%? 20%? 5%? 0.01%?

If it's a small percentage, well then people get what they pay for if they order a $10 battery.

If it's a large percentage, there's nothing Apple can do about it so the regulators need to step in. Can you buy $5 batteries for your car? No? Why? It's not an impossible problem to solve.

The wrong solution is Apple locking everything down to only work with its own parts.

 

[Aoligei]

What percentage, Apple? 50%? 20%? 5%? 0.01%?

If it's a small percentage, well then people get what they pay for if they order a $10 battery.

If it's a large percentage, there's nothing Apple can do about it so the regulators need to step in. Can you buy $5 batteries for your car? No? Why? It's not an impossible problem to solve.

The wrong solution is Apple locking everything down to only work with its own parts.

Components pairing makes sense to some point as it informs a second hand iPhone buyer which component was changed and if the component was Apple approved parts. Some people do not like non-genuine parts being installed, as some third part components can be inferior quality.

However, it makes zero sense for iPhone not displaying battery health information (as even part swapping will prevent battery health info being displayed) or prevent auto-brightness working with third party displays.

 

[Aoligei]

This is pretty cool. I just replaced a display in an iPhone 15 to an LCD display that does not use PWM (because Apple's OLED displays flicker and cause massive eye-strain), and not having True Tone was one of the only drawbacks.

This will no longer be an issue because of this! Good job, Apple!

Nice to know there might be a viable option for those stuck on LCD iPhone 11 due to OLED PWM flickering! I just hope a company springs up who does it, I don't fancy breaking a new iPhone myself.

Please note: LCD display draw more powers than OLED parts. Therefore, there is potential that LCD display will damage power delivery system, as it was not designed to handle LCD’s power draw.

Certainly, if problem arises with LCD display, your warranty will be voids

 

[Fuzzball84]

Your iPhone battery is made in China as well. Not all batteries made in China are poor quality.

I won’t pay $5 dollar for a battery, but I also refuse to pay $120 for a battery. $30-$40 batteries are decent enough, and if it runs down in a year or two, so be it. I will just get other one.

A battery that satisfies safety standards is better than a battery that doesn’t, no matter what its cost. It’s about standards, not pricing. I buy from Apple because I trust the battery to adhere to safety standards. Not because it’s 120 dollars.

 

[TOM1211]

Just replaced the battery in my iPhone 14 Pro and my Apple Watch , my Apple Watch doesn’t care what battery is in it where as the iPhone 14 Pro complains seems odd software in the Apple Watch isn’t bothered . I now wonder if the notifications disappear on the ones that have already done it. Also wonder if Apple would then accept trade ins with third party stuff fitted or not

 

[bviktor]

Give us user replaceable batteries while retaining IP rating, I don't care about the rest.

Yes, it CAN be done, Samsung did it at one point, then it faded away.

 

[MathersMahmood]

I can’t believe I’m reading this.

Apple is doing some 180s lately and I wonder why. I don’t think it’s from the goodness of their hearts.

 

[Aoligei]

A battery that satisfies safety standards is better than a battery that doesn’t, no matter what its cost. It’s about standards, not pricing. I buy from Apple because I trust the battery to adhere to safety standards. Not because it’s 120 dollars.

A $30 battery that adheres to safety standards is also safe to use. Therefore, there is no reason for Apple to limit use of third party battery that fits safety standards. Unless you mean only Apple batteries adhere to safety standard.

 

[Aoligei]

I can’t believe I’m reading this.

Apple is doing some 180s lately and I wonder why. I don’t think it’s from the goodness of their hearts.

It is from regulatory pressure.

 

[JosephAW]

I've never heard anyone say they didn't like it before 😮 I remember sideloading an app to do much the same thing before they finally got around to implementing it. It's better for your eyes and for your sleep to activate it.

Even though I have True Tone off I still use night shift all the time. Didn’t know they worked together in tandem.

 

[Spock]

I like it when Apple does things to minimize complaints from iFixit. 😅

 

[Fuzzball84]

A $30 battery that adheres to safety standards is also safe to use. Therefore, there is no reason for Apple to limit use of third party battery that fits safety standards. Unless you mean only Apple batteries adhere to safety standard.

It’s how you know it is a safe battery that is the issue. It’s got nothing to do with cost except where a battery is cheap, and is cheap for a reason.

That’s why it’s key where you buy it from and who installs it. Any manufacturer in china or elsewhere can print anything they want on the battery to make it look compliant.

The benefit of buying from battery service from Apple is that it’s a certain the battery is legitimately sourced and compliant to all current battery safety standards. You just can’t say the same for a battery installed by mobile phonez zone down in the local mall.

When I’ve bought replacement batteries for laptops in years gone but I buy direct from the laptop manufacture. I just don’t trust 3rd party batteries.

The only third party battery I’ve ever bought has been from electronic raspberry pi hobbyist stores that have rock solid reputations. Never from eBay, Amazon marketplace or similar.

The only other place I’d consider is iFixit store… but you have to be hyper vigilante.

 

[ghostface147]

Mall kiosks for the win!

 

[Fuzzball84]

Mall kiosks for the win!

I’m sure they will… but where do they get those cheap batteries.

 

[Aoligei]

It’s how you know it is a safe battery that is the issue. It’s got nothing to do with cost except where a battery is cheap, and is cheap for a reason.

That’s why it’s key where you buy it from and who installs it. Any manufacturer in china or elsewhere can print anything they want on the battery to make it look compliant.

The benefit of buying from battery service from Apple is that it’s a certain the battery is legitimately sourced and compliant to all current battery safety standards. You just can’t say the same for a battery installed by mobile phonez zone down in the local mall.

When I’ve bought replacement batteries for laptops in years gone but I buy direct from the laptop manufacture. I just don’t trust 3rd party batteries.

The only third party battery I’ve ever bought has been from electronic raspberry pi hobbyist stores that have rock solid reputations. Never from eBay, Amazon marketplace or similar.

The only other place I’d consider is iFixit store… but you have to be hyper vigilante.

Apple’s $120 battery replacement, the components itself doesn’t cost $120. Any reasonably priced battery should be good.

I trust local repair chain (such as Mobile Klinik or UBreakIfixit) as much as Apple.

As far as my experience go, I have sourced at least 6 different batteries from Amazon ranging from $20-$40, none of them had any problems of whatsoever.

What I don’t know why this matter to you. You clearly won’t replace battery from any third party retailer, so you are so mad?

 

[Aoligei]

I’m sure they will… but where do they get those cheap batteries.

Mall Kiosks has been doing battery replacement for years, regardless what Apple does.

All Apple does is making other retailer looks bad. It does nothing to prevent third party components being installed.

 

[Fuzzball84]

Apple’s $120 battery replacement, the components itself doesn’t cost $120. Any reasonably priced battery should be good.

I trust local repair chain (such as Mobile Klinik or UBreakIfixit) as much as Apple.

As far as my experience go, I have sourced at least 6 different batteries from Amazon ranging from $20-$40, none of them had any problems of whatsoever.

What I don’t know why this matter to you. You clearly won’t replace battery from any third party retailer, so you are so mad?

Did those batteries come with the full compliment of safety features built into Apple batteries?

What I don’t know is why it matters to you id only replace an Apple battery with Apple battery service 😂

You can put whatever you want into your own devices. It’s not my property that’s put at risk of fire.

 

[Aoligei]

Did those batteries come with the full compliment of safety features built into Apple batteries?

If Apple so so concerned about safety, why aren’t they straight up disable third party battery or just direct soldiers battery into main board, so nobody can replace battery?

Out of millions of third party batteries, how many of them went into combustion? If all third party batteries are bad, then why don’t we hear more frequent news?

What I don’t know is why it matters to you id only replace an Apple battery with Apple battery service 😂

You can put whatever you want into your own devices. It’s not my property that’s put at risk of fire.

Sure. We can have agreement that let people choose to put whatever on their devices.

And all these restrictions makes zero sense in beginning. This is why Apple is reversing many of its restrictions imposed on third party components.

 

[Fuzzball84]

If Apple so so concerned about safety, why aren’t they straight up disable third party battery or just direct soldiers battery into main board, so nobody can replace battery?

Out of millions of third party batteries, how many of them went into combustion? If all third party batteries are bad, then why don’t we hear more frequent news?



Sure. We can have agreement that let people choose to put whatever on their devices.

And all these restrictions makes zero sense in beginning. This is why Apple is reversing many of its restrictions imposed on third party components.

I didn’t say all third party batteries are bad… just that it’s impossible to know which ones confirm to the latest safety standards for li ion.

Do you know how many safety features are incorporated into li ion batteries to ensure safety? They have more safety measures than most other battery chemistries. They have caused house fires, fires on planes, cargo planes etc

I think Apple is now saying do at your own risk.

I think iOS should log when a third party component is installed and report it to Apple. Then if there is a fire, Apple can say, it’s was an iPhone, but it was modified and contained a non original third party component.

You should see electronics hobbyists that tear down cheap components bought online. Yes, some work but they cut corners and it’s just pure luck that dangerous things don’t happen.

 

[vantelimus]

A $30 battery that adheres to safety standards is also safe to use. Therefore, there is no reason for Apple to limit use of third party battery that fits safety standards. Unless you mean only Apple batteries adhere to safety standard.

Of course a $30 battery that adheres to safety standards is safe to use. How do you find one of those? What brands are particularly well known to consumers for their high quality? How do I make sure that the little independent repair shop in the strip mall down the street is going to use such a battery? How will I know they aren’t selling me a used battery?

Buying from Apple is less risky. The independent repair shop in the strip mall next to the strip club lacks history and often has a shaky reputation.

 

[Aoligei]

Of course a $30 battery that adheres to safety standards is safe to use. How do you find one of those? What brands are particularly well known to consumers for their high quality? How do I make sure that the little independent repair shop in the strip mall down the street is going to use such a battery? How will I know they aren’t selling me a used battery?

Buying from Apple is less risky. The independent repair shop in the strip mall next to the strip club lacks history and often has a shaky reputation.

Sure. I don’t go to small mall kiosks for battery replacement, but I would trust chain repair store as much as Apple.

How how does preventing battery health information prevent strip mall kiosks install battery?

Again, let me ask you. If this is all about safety, why isn’t Apple disable third party battery from functioning?

 

[Fuzzball84]

Sure. I don’t go to small mall kiosks for battery replacement, but I would trust chain repair store as much as Apple.

How how does preventing battery health information prevent strip mall kiosks install battery?

Again, let me ask you. If this is all about safety, why isn’t Apple disable third party battery from functioning?

You didn’t say which brands or suppliers can be trusted… just chain repair store? But what’s a reputable chain repair store?

 

[Aoligei]

You didn’t say which brands or suppliers can be trusted… just chain repair store? But what’s a reputable chain repair store?

I have been using this brand for longest time. It is in my old iPhone X, iPhone XS Max, iPhone 12 Pro.

This is brand was also being used by some local chain repair store (Mobile Klinik, with is owned by Telus in Canada)

I have also used this with old Pixel 3, iPhone 7 Plus and iPhone 7

Also, iFixit battery is also high quality. Although I have never used their battery.

 

[Fuzzball84]

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I have been using this brand for longest time. It is in my old iPhone X, iPhone XS Max, iPhone 12 Pro.

This is brand was also being used by some local chain repair store (Mobile Klinik, with is owned by Telus in Canada)

I have also used this with old Pixel 3, iPhone 7 Plus and iPhone 7




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Also, iFixit battery is also high quality. Although I have never used their battery.

I have to say I’d use ifixit batteries in other tech items such as portable games consoles.

Do the above companies provide a list of specs for the batteries including safety features?

 

[JosephAW]

They need to improve things on Macs again too. Make it easy to replace hard drives and ram again.

Or at least add additional disk space with a slot that appends to the internal space.