Apple Says it Has Created Over 2 Million U.S. Jobs Since iPhone Launched in 2007

[kdarling]

Apple has created over two million jobs in the United States since the introduction of the iPhone nine years ago, including explosive growth in iOS developers, thousands of new supplier and manufacturing partners,

Sure. Two million.

As we found out last time, Apple takes credit even for truck plant assembly workers. This is because they use delivery services in the US, and those services use trucks. Ditto for airplane workers.

By that standard, I guess most of us can take credit for all the workers assembling cars, drilling for and refining oil, making car parts, police employment, road workers, etc

Another big bunch they lay claim to are hundreds of thousands of iOS developers. That's fair, except that the overwhelming majority do not make a living wage from that "job"... if anything at all.

A report from last week claimed that Apple asked both Foxconn and Pegatron to look into making iPhones stateside, a request which Foxconn is allegedly studying closely.

The Flextronics CEO said that when Moto assembled the custom Moto X in their Texas factory, it only added $8-$10 per unit to the cost, over doing it overseas... and even some of that was reclaimed by not having to ship the final units to the USA for US customers.

So bringing work stateside, even just for US bound devices, depends on how much Apple is willing to give up out of their profit margin. It wouldn't have to be that much. Or heck, if they won't give up a dime, then they could even charge $10 extra for a Made In America version.

 

[Bubba Satori]

The Flextronics CEO said that when Moto assembled the custom Moto X in their Texas factory, it only added $8-$10 per unit to the cost, over doing it overseas... and even some of that was reclaimed by not having to ship the final units to the USA for US customers.

So bringing work stateside, even just for US bound devices, depends on how much Apple is willing to give up out of their profit margin. It wouldn't have to be that much. Or heck, if they won't give up a dime, then they could even charge $10 extra for a Made In America version.

No, they would charge an extra $100 for the Made in America sticker and pocket the $90 difference.
You just can't put enough value on that kind of courageous patriotism.

 

[jerryk]

Apple manufactures exactly ZERO percent of its iPhones in the United States. As a result, it has created millions of jobs in China over the last decade, helping nurture and grow a middle class of workers and managers who have profited enormously from American ideas and ingenuity while the US middle class has continued to shrink as a percentage of the whole. They should bring back some manufacturing jobs stateside (even 5 percent would be significant).

As long as those American workers are willing to work for the same wages as the Chinese I am sure Apple will be happy to have them. If not, if and when the jobs come back to the US they will be to a near lights out mostly automated factory. It will be the implement of Steve Job's dream of "Sand". When silicon sand goes in on door and computers come out the other door.

Motorola tried manufacturing Moto X cell phones in the Texas in 2013 and the plant was closed in 2014 as not cost effective.

 

[dilbert99]

How many jobs have you created?

I call bull on Apple making 2 million jobs in the

 

[kdarling]

Motorola tried manufacturing Moto X cell phones in the Texas in 2013 and the plant was closed in 2014 as not cost effective.

The problem was, not enough Americans bought the Moto X to keep a USA factory.

I bought two myself, as the opportunity to have a phone custom made doesn't come along too often. Not only did I get to choose the materials and colors (one has a real bamboo back), but one of them was preset from the factory to boot with "Hello Darling" built into the ROM. And they were custom built and shipped in just days.

It'd be great if Apple offered a similar customization for the IPhone.

 

[philosopherdog]

They will need to start driving that point home as Drumpf threatens American tech. No doubt there will be a huge showdown over encryption and the trade war with China is a big threat to good tech jobs. Drumpf will be very bad for high tech jobs and the coming clean energy economy.

 

[killawat]

Shoutout to the TX Applecare/repair team, never had a bad experience shipping in my rigs.

 

[Bubba Satori]

Most of them selling crappy accessories and repair services.

Let's also not forget the developers that just rip off IPs trying to make a buck.

How about putting some of those of billions in untaxed cash back in circulation?
[doublepost=1479735069][/doublepost]Also, call center work is hell on earth.

I used to recruit for them. It's awful. People hate it and quit before lunch on their first day.

So Apple save a lot of money on suicide nets.

 

[vvswarup]

Apple manufactures exactly ZERO percent of its iPhones in the United States. As a result, it has created millions of jobs in China over the last decade, helping nurture and grow a middle class of workers and managers who have profited enormously from American ideas and ingenuity while the US middle class has continued to shrink as a percentage of the whole. They should bring back some manufacturing jobs stateside (even 5 percent would be significant).

Apple doesn't just manufacture ZERO percent of its iPhones in the US. Apple manufacture exactly ZERO percent of its iPhones in the entire world. When SJ hired Tim Cook as Chief Operating Officer of Apple, one of the first things Tim Cook did was to shut down every single one of Apple's factories IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, not just the US. Tim Cook doesn't want Apple in manufacturing at all. Under him, Apple moved to contract manufacturing.

Apple DESIGNS its iPhones in California. It pays others to build the components according to its specifications. Those who build the components could be anywhere in the world. Apple has no choice but to go where the best manufacturer can be found.

Apple didn't shut down its factories in the US and move them overseas to save money. Apple shut down every factory it owned in the whole world because it didn't want to be in manufacturing at all, no matter the location.

 

[Nick11Mac]

Apple doesn't just manufacture ZERO percent of its iPhones in the US. Apple manufacture exactly ZERO percent of its iPhones in the entire world. When SJ hired Tim Cook as Chief Operating Officer of Apple, one of the first things Tim Cook did was to shut down every single one of Apple's factories IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, not just the US. Tim Cook doesn't want Apple in manufacturing at all. Under him, Apple moved to contract manufacturing.

Apple DESIGNS its iPhones in California. It pays others to build the components according to its specifications. Those who build the components could be anywhere in the world. Apple has no choice but to go where the best manufacturer can be found.

Apple didn't shut down its factories in the US and move them overseas to save money. Apple shut down every factory it owned in the whole world because it didn't want to be in manufacturing at all, no matter the location.

Good information, thanks.

 

[sudo1996]

"Created" is open to interpretation.

How about "stole" from Nokia and Blackberry.
Or if "stole" is too harsh a word, then "shifted" may more accurately describe what has happened.

Apple created three markets out of practically nowhere: smartphone, tablet, and mobile apps. Nokia and Blackberry were selling almost nothing in comparison, and nobody even knew what a tablet was until the iPad came out.
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They will need to start driving that point home as Drumpf threatens American tech. No doubt there will be a huge showdown over encryption and the trade war with China is a big threat to good tech jobs. Drumpf will be very bad for high tech jobs and the coming clean energy economy.

So far, the stock market does not agree with this sentiment except for maybe the part about clean energy (besides nuclear). And Apple and others have been setting up their databases and such in Texas because it's corporate-friendly...

 

[jerryk]

The problem was, not enough Americans bought the Moto X to keep a USA factory.

I bought two myself, as the opportunity to have a phone custom made doesn't come along too often. Not only did I get to choose the materials and colors (one has a real bamboo back), but one of them was preset from the factory to boot with "Hello Darling" built into the ROM. And they were custom built and shipped in just days.

It'd be great if Apple offered a similar customization for the IPhone.

Somebody must be buying enough of them, I just saw an ad for the Moto showing off their backs with cameras and all sorts of other accessories. The ad even had that "Hello Moto" fake Japanese accent.

 

[Jsameds]

"Apple create two million jobs in 10 years"

"Meh but they're crappy jobs"

This place is amazing. I believe the transition of the site over to the hate filled mob is now complete. Shame, it used to be a nice place. RIP MR.