Apple Says macOS 27 Won't Be Compatible With These Macs

[truthsearcher]

As a Mac Pro 2019 owner I am shocked and disappointed by decision. These machines are major professional investments and 6 years is just way too short as a usage period for them.

 

[mikeschr]

It's not available for small businesses. If you have schedule Cs and other forms, you have to purchase the app.

I've filed my Schedule C return with TurboTax on the web for many years. Maybe it's not available for entities like partnerships and S Corps?

 

[svish]

6 to 7 years support for Intel machines. Not bad. On a separate note, would like to see a larger iMac.

 

[throAU]

That's weird because I thought my 2018 MacBook Pro could run macOS 26, but I am surprised all of these newer Macs are excluded from macOS 27.

Why are you surprised? It's been 7 years since the last Intel Mac was released. 7 years is typically end of the line for new macOS for Macs, and this goes back decades.

 

[kwikdeth]

Given the current issues with pricing on RAM, storage, etc, I think they should push this decision back one more major OS version. Besides, it would be nice to have some genuine refinements to the half-baked Tahoe.

 

[kwikdeth]

Why are you surprised? It's been 7 years since the last Intel Mac was released. 7 years is typically end of the line for new macOS for Macs, and this goes back decades.

7 years since the last one was released.
Three years since they were last sold.

 

[jimscard]

I wonder how much more efficient macOS will be once they drop the x86 code like when they dropped the PPC code in... wasn't it Snow Leopard? IIRC there was a significant drop in install size for the OS. I wonder if macOS 27 will see a similar reduction.

Probaby won't have all that much of an effect. And keep in mind that Rosetta is still supported in 27, so Intel code will still run on Apple Silicon Macs.

 

[alphaod]

I wonder if macOS support ends will they still honor my AppleCare?

 

[bluecoast]

This was more than expected. Apple literally told us this a year ago when Tahoe came out. I don't know why people are acting like this is news. It's been known for a year at this point.

I agree with you about faith in Apple being hurt by Tahoe. I run it on my Neo because I have no choice, but I refuse to upgrade my other Macs. I will probably skip Tahoe altogether and daily drive Sequoia until I cannot do so anymore unless macOS 27 proves to be more like Snow Leopard was back in the day (aka GREAT).

Sounds a great plan!

For those who never ran Snow Leopard, it's hard to convey how rock solid it was.

And how it was the (perfected) end of the original OS X aqua era, UI-wise.

Then things would change quite a bit with Lion's UI - reverse drag, tool bars that hid by default, launchpad etc.

Although of course, at the end of its cycle, Snow Leopard did get a surprising major upgrade - the Mac App Store!

And you had to pay for Snow Leopard - and Lion (although it was considerably cheaper than SL). Once upon a time, we had to pay for our platform versions. Weird eh.

With the rumoured addition of the Siri Gemini upgrade, I doubt that 27 is going to be as stable as SL because of that.

But let's hope that the AI stuff is uncoupled enough from the underlying OS, that if Gemini derived AI turns out to be a mess still (and it really might be), when you disable it all, 27 will be stable, fast and optimised.

Fingers crossed.

 

[majkom]

I dont care, got intel mb pro 2019 that is nit gonna get new macos and i have no idea why would i care. Like, i did nit get many features with thah untel macbook already, moreover, living in EU, even more festures were not delivered🙂 so, in rrallity, almost nothing to care about, until security patches are made for that machine, it is fine🤷‍♂️

 

[neuropsychguy]

Efficiency in computing terms virtually always refers to performance (i.e., active use), not size. "Space-saving" or "smaller storage footprint" are the way that's said.

Maybe "space-efficient" would work, but "efficiency" is never used in computing marketing to mean "the software now takes up less space on your drive." It's always used to mean "the software now actively uses fewer resources when you're using it (RAM, CPU, battery, etc.)."

Let's not Gen Z this by using words in contexts that they're really never used in simply because one person misspoke but could, arguably, "well ackshually," be sort of right if you squint really hard.

Space efficiency (or space complexity) isn't internet slang -- it's foundational to computer science. Every data structures and algorithms class measures efficiency in two distinct ways: Time Complexity (CPU cycles) and Space Complexity (memory/storage footprint).

You're totally right that marketing teams love to focus on battery life and CPU performance, but from a systems engineering and deployment standpoint, reducing code bloat and optimizing disk footprint is an important efficiency metric.

But what do I know? I'm not a computer scientist, but I'm just going from what I learned in my CS courses years ago.

 

[menist]

Dang, my Macbook Pro 16 Core i9 2019 is still a beast 😞, maybe its time to put Windows on it.

 

[southerndoc]

I've filed my Schedule C return with TurboTax on the web for many years. Maybe it's not available for entities like partnerships and S Corps?

I'll look again next year. I have multiple schedule Cs, a K-1, etc. It just wasn't available to do all that.

 

[prusiner]

Intel-based Macs that can run macOS Tahoe but will not be compatible with macOS 27:

• 13-inch MacBook Pro (2020, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports)
• 16-inch MacBook Pro (2019)
• 27-inch iMac (2020)
• Mac Pro (2019)

(Apple said Intel-based Macs will continue to receive security updates for three years)

Once their time has come, they will be excellent Windows computers for years to come.

 

[throAU]

7 years since the last one was released.
Three years since they were last sold.

Yes. Point? 3 years is the warranty period, and they will get security updates another 3 years or so.

 

[Moukee]

M1 is showing its age unfortunately, evidenced by my iPad Pro M1 running noticeably slower on iOS 26 than on iOS 18. I can still use it but not great anymore. My M1 MacBook Pro is still decent but does not feel as snappy as it once was on older macOS. However it might be good for customers for long supports, if M1 is to get major software update for 10 years, that also means devs targeting platforms for new apps would also be M1, instead of M2/M3/M4, which might not be as good as you think.

When I say "full software support" I implied that it needs to run well, not like iOS 9 on an iPhone 4S. The M1 series is still plenty fast, and for most tasks I don't notice much of a difference between my M1 Max MBP and an M4 Pro MBP. If the rumors are to be believed, (i/mac)OS 27 will also see many under-the-hood improvements, so let's hope we get another Snow Leopard or iOS 12 like release that actually improves on performance.

 

[Kawawolf]

My M1 Air with 8gb RAM that I use for travel still runs just fine on OS26. If 27 is just bug fixes, I expect it to continue running just fine for many years. I don’t need to run anything crazy while on vacation, but I still want a computer with me to look up stuff nearby, prepping for the next day.