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Apple Says 'No Evidence' of Forced Labor at Key Chinese Supplier [Updated]

abhibeckert said:
Apple faces a similar issue with underage workers in China. They're typically one it two years too young and they want the job so they provide fake ID and use bribes.

Apple's inspectors are still able to catch it. Ask for proof and verify the proof hasn't been forged.


It would be a breach of contract - which means Apple can cut ties with the company and not pay for whatever they manufactured - while also not allowing them to sell the goods to anyone else either (because it's all proprietary).

For nearly all components Apple has more than one supplier - which means they can drop them without any serious disruptions.

Given Tim Cook's track record on issues like this, I'm going to assume he's telling the truth. It's either very well hidden or they're not doing this at Apple factories where they know they will be subjected to close scrutiny.
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They asked what could Apple do your YOU. In this case the "you" is the worker. They are saying the worker has no incentive to reveal to Apple that they are their agains their will. Apple filing a breach of contract does not help you in any any. Apple will leave and you will just be a slave on some other assembly line in the same factory.
 
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AlexGraphicD said:
I was one of those people that mocked americans because of the way they think and live, until I had the privilege to migrate to this country and witnessed firsthand the true american spirit. And realized that I was wrong and had been a victim of decades of socialist indoctrination from the European marxists and that the americans are right to think the way they do. I don't think traditional americans glorify their government. To the contrary, they don't like it when government gets in their way too much. They rightfuly think think that their constitution and way of life are the best and that is very true.



I understand your reasoning, but the problem is that China is using the "cooperation" from western private companies to infiltrate and dominate the world through economic supremacy. And that is even more dangerous and harder to deal with, than a traditional all out war with weapons.
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I'm not saying the US government is bad, well it kind of is but IMO it's the better than others at the moment. I wouldn't choose any other government if they gave me a choice. My point is Americans often put down other people's governments. It's like I'm Christian and you're Atheist so I tell you that you're an idiot and going to hell. That's wrong! I think my religion is the correct choice but I won't put you down because you don't pick the same one.
 
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Greenmeenie said:
No evidence? Um... Okay Tim. Keep living in your dream world. It’s amazing how blind these CEOs can be when it comes to China. Apple is the richest company in the world yet they still bow to China. it’s all about money. Sad.
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Yup, the sad realities of what capitalism deems acceptable.
 
SoGood said:
Hypocritical for the US-led coalition to try to attack China's management of Uighur islamic extremism. The US with a bunch of countries could illegally invade countries based on lies, smother countries' decades of development and kill 300,000+ innocent civilians just in Iraq alone, yet it's jumping up and down over China's domestic management of islamic extremism. And these US/West funded and supported entities are just as good at making up stories as those Iraqi 'exile' groups through those WMD stories. Just pathetic! So sad to have Apple and other corporations to get caught up in these frivolous geopolitical stories.
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Pathetic your attempt to downplay the biggest prison camps for religious reasons since the Nazi times.
The camps and that attitude are disgusting.
Do the US make plenty mistakes themselves? Absolutely. One crime is never a justification for another. Speaking out against human rights violations like the crap that China is doing there is absolutely overdue.

Not all Muslims are terrorists and even Americans understand that to a large degree.
 
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russell_314 said:
I support what China is doing to promote the safety of its citizens. I think this is about all I would be allowed to say in this form without it being deleted.
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Apple is going to India so they can sell phones in India. India puts a huge tariff on imported phones so they can promote manufacturing in their own country
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Are you saying you support China’s attempt at eradicating the Uighur culture?

Wow.
 
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macdos said:
That's right, no evidence.

The long read: https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/21/...ns-uyghurs-problems-claims-us-ngo-researcher/

These accusations are part of the current crusade agianst China, and are as credible as everyting else that comes out of Pompeo's mouth. Like yesterday's news that China's consulate in Houston is involved in stealing immaterial property (anyone can do that, even from outside the US).

As a European, it amazes me how easily Americans follow their Führer in foriegn affairs issues, while at the same time being more critical in domestic issues.
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Attempts at downplaying the attempt to eradicate a culture for religious reasons are well known here. Spoken straight from the Chinese party book. Europeans are usually better educated having had the Nazi problem at the front door.
Biggest prison camps since Nazi Germany. Watch history repeat itself.
 
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ScholarsInk said:
His 'source' was a Chinese-funded propaganda outlet that shills for the concentration camps. He can be safely ignored.
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He she it has disqualified herself multiple times over not just in this thread. Party shill times ten.
 
ericwn said:
Pathetic your attempt to downplay the biggest prison camps for religious reasons since the Nazi times.
The camps and that attitude are disgusting.
Do the US make plenty mistakes themselves? Absolutely. One crime is never a justification for another. Speaking out against human rights violations like the crap that China is doing there is absolutely overdue.

Not all Muslims are terrorists and even Americans understand that to a large degree.
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Why do kids in 2020 compare everything they disagree with to Nazi and Hitler. You support Trump... You're a Nazi... Calling anything going on in China or the USA "concentration camps" is just an ignorant comment and an insult to the millions who died in them. People need to go back to school and learn history
 
russell_314 said:
Why do kids in 2020 compare everything they disagree with to Nazi and Hitler. You support Trump... You're a Nazi... Calling anything going on in China or the USA "concentration camps" is just an ignorant comment and an insult to the millions who died in them. People need to go back to school and learn history
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I’m putting the Chinese camp into a size relation. It’s the second biggest attempt at eradicating a culture, for religious reasons. That’s also not something that Trump invented, and nobody stated anything like that.

And I’ll take the information straight from any trusted human rights association rather than the US or especially China.

Trying to downplay what China is doing with the Uighur camps is ignorant at best and this is not the time to play offended if some calls your Chinese buddies out for trying to soft-copy the Nazi approach. Now go and be offended by some other truths out there.
 
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