Apple Says Oppo Engineer Stole Apple Watch Trade Secrets, Gave Presentation to Hundreds

[nt5672]

Now they know how Xerox P.A.R.C. felt after 1979.

Except that Xerox was not interested in the technology. Completely different.

 

[UmichAg]

China promotes industrial espionage. You run a risk when you don't have good practices when hiring employees from there

 

[GMShadow]

Now they know how Xerox P.A.R.C. felt after 1979.

Fun fact: Xerox was compensated for Apple's visits by being allowed to buy shares in Apple pre-IPO. It wasn't a secret what they were there for - Xerox didn't see a market for the Alto. They bought a million bucks worth of shares that ended up being worth 16 million when Apple went public.

 

[Kr0019]

Now they know how Xerox P.A.R.C. felt after 1979.

Best you read the historic facts of that story. Xerox received Apple shares for the invitation to watch that demonstration. Did Xerox sue Apple, no they didn't, they chose to walk away from that project and Apple took what they were freely given and developed their OS.

 

[GMShadow]

Best you read the historic facts of that story. Xerox received Apple shares for the invitation to watch that demonstration. Did Xerox sue Apple, no they didn't, they chose to walk away from that project and Apple took what they were freely given and developed their OS.

The Apple guys were also developing the Lisa OS and later the Mac OS from memory - to the point of implementing features like 'reparing' windows because they *thought* they'd seen the Alto do that - only to find out the Alto guys were stunned they'd pulled it off because they themselves hadn't managed it.

Smalltalk didn't even have self-repairing windows - you had to click in them to get them to repaint, and programs couldn't draw into partially obscured windows. Bill Atkinson did not know this, so he invented regions as the basis of QuickDraw and the Window Manager so that he could quickly draw in covered windows and repaint portions of windows brought to the front.

 

[leicaguy]

Apple allows connecting USB drives to their employees computers? Can't believe they have this security hole.

Yeah, most companies shut that down, I found it rather appalling they would allow company propertary data to just be downloaded to external media.

 

[Adam-Jobs]

My wallet is ready.

 

[chmania]

Really? Where is Apple filing the case?
Are there any Chinese drs working with/for Apple? In the US or in China?

 

[mjs916]

Stealing trade secrets is as American as Oppo pie 🥧

 

[bmark]

What do they even care? Does OPPO even sell in the US?

Oppo doesn't sell phones directly in the US and has no retail partners.

 

[contacos]

Oppo doesn't sell phones directly in the US and has no retail partners.

So who are they even suing really? It's not like China is going to send them a check

 

[dantay]

Who knew being shady was a medical condition?

 

[chmania]

Well, anyone has the right to care for their parents, especially if they are Asian, and that's an obligation. They also have the right to work for their own country, even when foreign companies may offer "high compensation."

 

[Musocat]

Apple got exactly what Apple deserved.

 

[chmania]

It is a matter of fact, though. Industrial espionage is Chinese raison d'état. I think what comes through in the comments here is the frustration many feel about the apparent lack of any consequences – whether it's Apple Watch sensors, German car engieering secrets, or the fact that China's newest military helicopter looks exactly like a Blackhawk.

Employing Chinese nationals poses a potential security risk, especially for sensitive industries.

Then don't buy made in China products, ever!

 

[t0rqx]

Masimo anyone?

 

[Spacewiz]

Then don't buy made in China products, ever!

I absolutely minimize what I buy from the Peoples Republic. Like keeping my iPhones for over 4 years minimum, and looking as deeply as I can into the origins of anything I buy, especially big ticket items.

 

[tridley68]

Hope Apple makes a example out of him and he does prison time and restution so he or the next guy will think twice before doing this again .

 

[chmania]

We can understand, why Apple is so worried of Oppo (and other interesting phones)

A Brit's take.
When would iPhone get such features?

 

[Hooyah]

That’s what Apple get for doing business with the devil (the CCP). This guy was also probably forced by the CCP to go and collect trade secrets. There is no separation of state and enterprise in the CCP… ask Jack Ma who went ‘missing’ for a while for investing in a non CCP controlled financial business… Apple, please get out.

 

[mjs916]

Who knew being shady was a medical condition?

I suspect the condition he has been diagnosed with is “Liticaphobia” - an irrational fear of being sued.

Irrational doesn’t really apply, so maybe just severe anxiety.

 

[mjs916]

We can understand, why Apple is so worried of Oppo (and other interesting phones)

A Brit's take.
When would iPhone get such features?

I wasn’t prepared for how shameless a rip-off that was.

If you don’t have time to watch the video just refer to the visual synopsis I’ve attached. 😉

Thanks for introducing me to that YouTuber btw.

 

[HiVolt]

The Chinese?? No way!!

I don't understand how western tech companies can hire Chinese nationals and not expect this to happen, or even US born Chinese citizens that have ties to other companies in China or travel to China frequently.

 

[tenjikuronin]

It is a matter of fact, though. Industrial espionage is Chinese raison d'état. I think what comes through in the comments here is the frustration many feel about the apparent lack of any consequences – whether it's Apple Watch sensors, German car engieering secrets, or the fact that China's newest military helicopter looks exactly like a Blackhawk.

Employing Chinese nationals poses a potential security risk, especially for sensitive industries.

"Chinese" is different from "Chinese nationals," and many, many people in this thread have decided to not make that distinction.

 

[Mac Overdose]

Hey Tim Apple a word of advice. Don't hire Chinese. You deserve what you got.