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I support sideloading and alternative app stores, but I also support Apple's statement against Meta.
I can appreciate your support or side loading as that is your choice, me I have no interest in it or alt app stores. Android offers those and just see no need, personally, why apple needs to be forced to do the same. None of my friends are clamoring for side loading and or an alternate App Store. Only my perspective.
 
I can appreciate your support or side loading as that is your choice, me I have no interest in it or alt app stores. Android offers those and just see no need, personally, why apple needs to be forced to do the same. None of my friends are clamoring for side loading and or an alternate App Store. Only my perspective.
I jailbroke my first iPhone way back in 2009 or 2010 to add functionality that existed in the kernel but was locked down by Apple. And that was to enable tethering and share my 3G connection via USB or WIFI. This functionality is stock today, but back then Apple locked it down. Enabling tethering on the phone allowed me to remain connected with family members when they were going thru a hurricane when my internet provider went down. We take it for granted today but back then an app from an alternative App Store enabled me to stay in contact with family.

Another thing you could do with jailbreaking was to customize the look of the icons and springboard and even replace the control center with something far more useful. There are so many ways to customize the phone, but Apple's restrictions, in my view, is stifling innovation in some ways. Most people might not ever want to customize their phone or load other apps and that is totally okay. But there are some of us, perhaps a very small minority, but we exist who are of the opinion that we paid our good hard earned money for the phone, let us use it how we want to use it, within the confines of the law of course.

We can agree to disagree on this point and that's okay. Best wishes!
 
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Except I don’t feel apple was being greedy 30% never seemed exorbitant to me, people really want stuff for free these days
You bet they want their free stuff. I remember going out and paying for software and then iOS came along. Probably the most expensive purchase I have made was a long time ago, way before Apple Maps was an app called Navigon. It was over $30 for sure. Now everything is basically free apps but then you all of these in app purchases that come up to well over $30 in some cases and I just hate monthly subscription fees
 
“You’re too greedy!”
“No, you’re too greedy!”

Actually you’re both right.
No, you're wrong. It's:

"You're too greedy!"
"No, you're a hypocrite."

Businesses are greedy. They exist to take people's money. The hypocrisy comes into play when one business calls another greedy and then proceeds to outdo them.

Since I'm sure you need this spelled out for you: Greed is not the issue at all here. Hypocrisy is. Got it?
 
I disagree on this on one point:
Apple makes money with hardware and services, not with your data and ads - and protects privacy as much as possible (my key driver to stay with Apple)

Facebook is the exact opposite.
Cough cough…

 
Not a fan of Zuckerberg. And Facebook/social media has a corrosive impact on our society.

That being said oculus, virtual/augmented reality has a lot of upside. I’ve seen kids put on an oculus and they can’t stop grinning when their hand runs into tentacles or they are grabbing onto the outside of the international space station as the earth spins by. Some hurdles to figure out for sure. But it’s pretty cool.
Of course, I am also technically enthusiastic.
But the disconnect from the real world makes it rather difficult to practice and learn success, commonality, and enjoyment in the real world on a daily basis. This is the corrosive impact of such technology on humanity.

Apple will always use the real environment as a base layer in its glasses, so that's a useful distinction for me.
 
No, you're wrong. It's:

"You're too greedy!"
"No, you're a hypocrite."

Businesses are greedy. They exist to take people's money. The hypocrisy comes into play when one business calls another greedy and then proceeds to outdo them.

Since I'm sure you need this spelled out for you: Greed is not the issue at all here. Hypocrisy is. Got it?
Nope, I’ve got a problem with the greed enabled through disallowing competition in app distribution.
 
The best decision I’ve ever made, is I’ve never been on any social media platforms ever, and I never will. [But I’m not the ‘norm’ either.]

But to the point, I don’t think it makes it ‘mindless consumers’, I think people have a conscious choice in participating social media and how it benefits their lifestyle and/or workflow. There’s a definitive disparity that you’re not including in your post.
Some would say macrumours is a social media platform for mac-enthusiasts…
 
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This meta crap is gonna go the way of 3D TVS. It will be a fad enjoyed by some and then mostly forgotten about.
 
You bet they want their free stuff. I remember going out and paying for software and then iOS came along. Probably the most expensive purchase I have made was a long time ago, way before Apple Maps was an app called Navigon. It was over $30 for sure. Now everything is basically free apps but then you all of these in app purchases that come up to well over $30 in some cases and I just hate monthly subscription fees
Heh... I used Palm OS A LOT in the 00s. My first 2 purchases on there was a Galaxia clone and a Frogger clone. Each of those games costed $10 each. I recall one person said some mini-game for Palm OS cost $10, but a full adventure video game for Game Boy Advance cost $20. The latter included that mini game within the game and was a much better value.

Apps in those times (before we even used the term "apps") could also get to $30 to $50 apiece (e.g. Documents To Go)*. I heard ESD (electronic software distribution sites) would charge 65% (yes, they get the majority) to host software. If you don't use them, discovery can be very difficult (not to mention they established some trust), and per their agreement, if they found you selling your software at a cheaper price, you'd be breaking their ToS. There was a movement against those ESDs, but Palm OS and Windows Mobile (not to be confused with Windows Phone which came in a decade or so later) both croaked, so it's moot... until it happens again, like now.


* One app cost $20, which was a a fireplace. People wondered why they couldn't just play a video of a fire in a fireplace, and just loop that for free
 
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