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I see the buttons situation in a quite similar way to modern smart phones.
They did remove the keyboard and that all in all was for the best as while typing becomes a bit worse a new world of possibilities was opened.
But smartphones did keep a few key physical controls.
Even Teslas which are known for not having controls have several physical controls.
 
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Please don't let a future iOS update break my new car. :)
This is the big unknown. With Apple's lousy track record as of late, why would someone spend money on a luxury vehicle that's saddled with CarPlay that would likely not see meaningful, regular updates.
I have yet to have anyone in these discussions provide me with an answer as to why a car maker would want to be saddled with something that could work against their reputation. Because let's face it, Apple has been doing everything to prioritize the new and the shiny and letting long-standing bugs and issues fall by the wayside.
 
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no, some car manufacturers are returning to put "real" buttons back in new cars, case in point 2025 Hyundai Ioniq 5 for the climate controls.

Tesla removed the stalks in the revamped Model 3, yet in the upcoming model Y revamp, they are still there - why do you think that is?

I think the opposite (back to buttons) will happen over time.

Great, and a few other folks sold phones with tactile keyboards in an effort to take on the iPhone.

Oops.
 
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I like Apple CarPlay, it’s a lot better than android auto.
Honestly don't see the difference. I use my 16 Pro Max 3-4 days of the week and an S24 Ultra or Pixel the remaining time. There's literally no difference in my cars. If anything Android Auto has an advantage because it isn't saddled with Siri. But it's overwhelmingly the same otherwise.

Edit: ohmigosh, Apple did change the squircle for the home button a few years back.
 
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You aren't going to get it. Voice control would be more effective outside of anything that isn't on the steering wheel anyway.

Like it or not, this is a Blackberry situation. The tactile buttons are going away, or we won't even need to drive anymore, in which case this is a non-issue.
Hyundai announced last year that they are planning on bringing back physical buttons for things like HVAC.
 
Honestly don't see the difference. I use my 16 Pro Max 3-4 days of the week and an S24 Ultra or Pixel the remaining time. There's literally no difference in my cars. If anything Android Auto has an advantage because it isn't saddled with Siri. But it's overwhelmingly the same otherwise.
well, they are both phone projection tools ... so if one likes iPhone better than Android, or vice versa, duh ...
 
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well, they are both phone projection tools ... so if one likes iPhone better than Android, or vice versa, duh ...
I have both, use both, and I think it's more confirmation bias than anything else to make people happy with their purchase, feel good about supporting the brand taking their money etc. Which is fine. But it's all about the same there's no functional high ground or difference unless you count that AA works better with larger screens than CarPlay but that's a cop-out. It's to the point where you could swap one with the other and tell people it's the updated version and no one would care
 
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Knobs and buttons. Can you still buy a radio and put it in yourself, does the Crutchfield Catalog still exist? I would definitely do this if I weren't still driving .... a car with knobs and buttons. I mean, it's not all that great, aside from being completely essential.🍸🐈
 
Can you still buy a radio and put it in yourself, does the Crutchfield Catalog still exist?

Crutchfield does still exist. They're a great alternative to someplace like Best Buy or Amazon for electronics gear, including car audio. Their customer service is still top notch, too.

However, the problem is, most cars—in fact, probably all cars—made in the last few years don't really have a replaceable "head unit" that just controls audio anymore. The touch screen controls audio, but also is the portal to a whole bunch of other car functions that are proprietary—there's no way a third party head unit would be able to replace them, even if it could be made to fit in the dash space.

(that's another thing: Car audio units, whether OEM or third party, used to come in standard sizes to make swapping among them easier. Also long gone.)
 
Is Renault coming to the US? Or was that a worldwide list?

Also, where is Toyota, Lexus, and VW?
 
How about a CarPlay that connects without having to tinker with the phone for 20 minutes to get it up and running? Most of the times I’ve to reboot the iPhone to get it to wirelessly connect. Pathetic.
 
The first gen car play is fine but I don’t want my whole phone’s apps plastered all over the dash. This is my car not an iPad.

Tactile buttons are easier, safer, never move and are visible in bright sunlight.

Just because it can be done doesn’t mean it should be done.
 
Apple partnering with an auto manufacturer to optimize and balance the user experience between hardware and UI/UX is probably its best bet to gain a foothold in the market to show potential.
 
How about a CarPlay that connects without having to tinker with the phone for 20 minutes to get it up and running? Most of the times I’ve to reboot the iPhone to get it to wirelessly connect. Pathetic.
That’s almost certainly an issue with you car, not CarPlay. I had wireless CarPlay from 2017 to 2021 and never once experienced that.
 
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