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Apple Says Several Car Makers Still Plan to Support Next-Generation CarPlay
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it depends on a manufacturer of the headunit. Indeed, best companies producing aftermarket headunits, do keep real buttons and knobs on headunit while also using the touch screen (example Pioneer, Sony, JVC etc)
But they're apples and apples when you think about where technology is headed. Tactile controls are not the future.
Oh I'm sorry, were you looking for something original and unique, as opposed to what is?
I think my current car (BMW M440i convertible) hits my sweet spot for the balance between physical knobs/buttons/stalks and touch screen, but unfortunately the latest LCI version has tipped the balance way too much in favour of touch screen although stalks are still there, thank goodness. I hope the next iteration reverts to the old balance.
Of course the iDrive controller means you don't really ever have to touch the screen if you don't want to, but there's still a certain amount of faffing around menus/screens to contend with. Voice control is good if limited.
I'm all for touch screens, but commonly used adjustments and controls really should be physical even if all they're doing is sending a message to the computers.
As for self-driving (which is really just very advanced lane/distance keeping/object avoidance on my car), well mine is very good on motorways but useless on small country roads. It gets very cross, very quickly if you take your hands off the wheel - which is A Good Thing IMO.
Of course the iDrive controller means you don't really ever have to touch the screen if you don't want to, but there's still a certain amount of faffing around menus/screens to contend with. Voice control is good if limited.
I'm all for touch screens, but commonly used adjustments and controls really should be physical even if all they're doing is sending a message to the computers.
As for self-driving (which is really just very advanced lane/distance keeping/object avoidance on my car), well mine is very good on motorways but useless on small country roads. It gets very cross, very quickly if you take your hands off the wheel - which is A Good Thing IMO.
Hopefully the next car I buy has CarPlay 2.0 (or maybe even 3.0 - I tend to keep my cars for a while) - but we'll see if anything comes of it. I'm not optimistic that the car companies won't shut Apple out, but I can promise you that if a vehicle doesn't have some sort of CarPlay support it's going to be a very uphill climb for me to seriously consider it.
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I agree with you 100%
An example happening right now...
There are other variables in play (brand trust/reputation), but one factor that has been sited in the Honda Prologue EV outselling the Chevy Blazer EV is the lack of CarPlay in the latter
(they are the same car, but re-badged by Honda)
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To me, nothing about CarPlay 2.0 precludes the addition of real tactile buttons. Buttons are there for permanent car features that you can manipulate without having to look at them. CarPlay 2.0 is there for a much better UI experience (dashboard/digital displays).
It doesn't preclude it, no, but the temptation will be even stronger for a manufacturer to go "all in" on nearly all/only screens (for cost reasons)...
And honestly even the concept image is just "not good"
Why on Earth would you want your calendar and some music controls spread all over the width of the interior and in front of the right seat passenger?
Maybe it would be customizable, but who knows...
Apple has a history of being pretty limited w/ user customization of UIs -- true even in current CarPlay
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Apple should’ve released the Apple car. Since they didn’t Xiaomi is getting all of the glory.
Given the recent addition of 100% tariffs associated with Chinese-made vehicles in the US, I suspect the business case for releasing the car, which by all reporting was already encountering significant issues and delays, was simply not there anymore.
That being said, I am sure the "infotainment" system part of Project Titan was one of the easiest things for Apple to get up and running given their other products, and it makes sense that they'd try to take some of what they learned on that huge R&D project and apply it to other products and projects.
It was working before I got the 16 pro that unfortunately comes with iOS 18. Only issues after then.
My colleague has the same issue with a Hyundai Kona, different car than mine.
Of course it’s entirely possible it’s an iPhone 16/iOS 18 bug, but I’d think it’d be bigger news if that was widespread.
Regardless that’s got to be really annoying, sorry you’re dealing with it. It always worked like magic for me.
Always feels like Apple CarPlay is kinda like a repeat of Motorola Rokr.
I kind of doubt it...
None of the ultraluxury brands that start at 6 or 7 figures have an infotainment focus... they all focus on suspension and noise and dynamics and acceleration and speed and comfort.
I think anyone who's in the market for new Apple products can afford cars from all the other brands. Certainly it might be a stretch or unwise, but... IDK, what brand has the highest entry point that's under $100K? Porsche? I see some new ones for $60K... I think anyone who can buy a new MBP can get some 8 year loan where the monthly payments can be made.
I never thought that before but you've got it exactly right.
Maybe another apt comparison would be the Pippin. Apple just wanted to make a spec/platform/OS and then license it out for other companies (Bandai, Katz, and others) to actually build the hardware.
Well
Color me a touch skeptical
Both Porsche and Aston Martin - especially the latter which has rolled out their new hardware and UI on 3 models this year - have launched their full UX screens and hardware. Porsche has 1 911 model upgraded. Aston Marton has the 2025 Vantage, Vanguish and the Lagonda.
I still think Apple is making headway even though there were a BIT overzealous and didn't implement the car's BRAND vs their own!
That was the issue.
Same with our ‘24 Porsche but more frequent. Around once a month might be close. PITA if you’re navigating in an urban area when it craters. Fortunately, ours will reboot itself after a few minutes. Aside from that it’s an utter POS. Never thought I’d see the day when Siri looked positively gorgeous compared to GV.
At some point I’ll be willing to trade safety for a simple, efficient, cheap car. They exist all over the world.