Apple Says Some 2018 iPad Pros Ship Bent, But It's Normal and Not a Defect

[Shiro_Simba]

I'm not talking about Steve Ballmer, and I don't know enough about Microsoft to give you an opinion. I'm also not going to let you change the subject just because you don't have an argument. The simple truth is this isn't short term financial gain. It's long term financial gain, breaking record after record for Apple under Tim Cook's leadership for the past 7 years. These issues with the 2018 iPad Pro seem to be notable issues, that they should address sooner rather than later, but that doesn't mean everyone gets to make sweeping generalizations about the "old days" as if suddenly Apple was superior until the passing of Jobs. Jobs-era Apple was plagued with similar issues as well.
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It is normal, and you're missing the point, which is that Apple at its lowest fluctation under Cook is still significantly higher than the highest peak under Jobs.

It’s cause under Steve Ballmer Microsoft got record profits .... and went down hill.

Anyway - you opinion is that financial gain is the measure of a CEO - fair enough .

Any product is as good as thier product owner , or visionary . Steve was one of the very best, he made apple and he saved it from ruin , he apple was superior under him.

What did cook have to deal with when given the keys ? At the first sign of conflict fire Scott, the only product person with Steve gone .

Cook can squeeze another three years of profits from Apple no doubt , don’t worry .

Running an empire is one thing , building one .... Cook? The guy is not a visionary- Apple was about innovation and making average people’s lifes better - under cook, company for the elite ...

 

[FireFish]

Firstly, I don’t buy any of this sh*t that the mothership is claiming. In case you’re not an Apple but, the Mothership refers to their Cupertino headquarters.

Second: You can put Johnny Ives in as many videos as you want, bragging about the Magical Design feats and pronouncing that gorgeous sounding British word; Aluminum (as al-yuu-min—yum). Fancy that govna, cup o tea, whatevs.

But there’s no way you can pull this off — as if it was intentionally designed and engineered so that it would be easily bendable. Bullshlock

 

[iPaintCode]

@Shiro_Simba said it perfectly.

Cook is a mastermind bean counter but doesn't have the vision of someone like Jobs. There is no doubt Cook can squeeze out profits as he did with his previous role under Jobs, but he is a Sculley lite. Jobs built up the brand and put Apple on a trajectory path for years to come after he passed and Apple has tried to preserve the founders D.N.A., but every year it falls shorter and shorter.

Jobs predicted what happens when people like Cook ran the show when it came to product design and development when he talked about Xeror.

In the same interview Jobs pretty much described the kind of CEO Apple did NOT need, and Cook in ways parallels Sculley.

Cook's first mistake was parting ways with Scott Forstall; Cook flopped hard on managing the rumored beef between Jony and Scott. Again, there is no denying Cook has tremendous talent when it comes to sales and operations and as a COO but Jobs kept everyone in check when he got his company back; he had grown into a great CEO after losing his company during the Sculley era. Funny quote from that interview but using the new Apple model; A new product for Pepsi Co was a new size bottle. Kind of sounds like Cook and keynotes on releasing new style watch bands.

Steve Jobs wanted to change the World (in pursuit of a noble cause), Tim Cook wants to change Apple (with platitudinous thinking).

 

[bobob]

Cook can squeeze another three years of profits from Apple

lol @ the 3-year timeline - - the "Apple is doomed!" contingent is finally starting to wise up after year after year of failed predictions of Apple's decline, so they're now stretching out their calendar of catastrophe in the hopes no one will remember their latest botched doomsaying by 2022.

 

[I7guy]

@Shiro_Simba said it perfectly.

Cook is a mastermind bean counter but doesn't have the vision of someone like Jobs. There is no doubt Cook can squeeze out profits as he did with his previous role under Jobs, but he is a Sculley lite. Jobs built up the brand and put Apple on a trajectory path for years to come after he passed and Apple has tried to preserve the founders D.N.A., but every year it falls shorter and shorter.

Jobs predicted what happens when people like Cook ran the show when it came to product design and development when he talked about ...

In the same interview Jobs pretty much described the kind of CEO Apple did NOT need, and Cook in ways parallels Sculley.

...Cook's first mistake was parting ways with Scott Forstall; Cook flopped hard on managing the rumored beef between Jony and Scott. Again, there is no denying Cook has tremendous talent when it comes to sales and operations and as a COO but Jobs kept everyone in check when he got his company back; he had grown into a great CEO after losing his company during the Sculley era. Funny quote from that interview but using the new Apple model; A new product for Pepsi Co was a new size bottle. Kind of sounds like Cook and keynotes on releasing new style watch bands.

Steve Jobs wanted to change the World (in pursuit of a noble cause), Tim Cook wants to change Apple (with platitudinous thinking).

And yet, cook replaced jobs. The irony of it all.

 

[Shiro_Simba]

lol @ the 3-year timeline - - the "Apple is doomed!" contingent is finally starting to wise up after year after year of failed predictions of Apple's decline, so they're now stretching out their calendar of catastrophe in the hopes no one will remember their latest botched doomsaying by 2022.

I was referring to him leaving Apple , along with the other senior execs, who will retire soon, maximising profits , to benift from shares when they leave. Maybe 3-5 years, It’s in their interest to make Apple as profitable as possible , leave with $$$ and future is someone else’s problem.
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And yet, cook replaced jobs. The irony of it all.

What irony ? Look at the other options ...... care to suggest who else should have got the role ? Jobs had so time ... to look external. Cook the obvious choice to keep calm between Scott and others .

 

[I7guy]

...What irony ? Look at the other options ...... care to suggest who else should have got the role ? Jobs had so time ... to look external. Cook the obvious choice to keep calm between Scott and others .

The irony of jobs saying apple doesn’t need a ceo like sculley and the op saying cook is like sculley.

 

[Shiro_Simba]

The irony of jobs saying apple doesn’t need a ceo like sculley and the op saying cook is like sculley.

He is , and like Steve Ballmer , or any other CEO who does an excellent job making profit .

Given Steve’s condition at the time, Cook was the best choice . Question you have to ask yourself , if Jobs was not terminal and was looking for someone to replace him, think it would be cook? Cook was a safe choice , sculley short term was also good ..... as I said , with Cook in charge and Scott to provide vision, the best choice.... Cook failed at the first hurdle and fired Scott ....

 

[I7guy]

He is , and like Steve Ballmer , or any other CEO who does an excellent job making profit .

Given Steve’s condition at the time, Cook was the best choice . Question you have to ask yourself , if Jobs was not terminal and was looking for someone to replace him, think it would be cook? Cook was a safe choice , sculley short term was also good ..... as I said , with Cook in charge and Scott to provide vision, the best choice.... Cook failed at the first hurdle and fired Scott ....

Maybe that was cooks first test and he passed with flying colors. All these hypotheticals about cook. Cooks in as ceo until he decides to leave.

 

[Shiro_Simba]

Maybe that was cooks first test and he passed with flying colors. All these hypotheticals about cook. Cooks in as ceo until he decides to leave.

Cause jobs did not create an environment of conflict, where people were encouraged to fight for their idea and believes ? You need to do some research on Jobs, and if one product, look at the iPhone , competition within Apple

Cook firing Scott a test...... yeah right, Jobs would have done it a long time ago .... but yeah you could be right, he thought of a cunning plan to get a terminal illness and as a test the new CEO had to fired Scott ....

Thanks for stating he is the CEO. This is the Mac rumours site alas we have opinions

 

[I7guy]

Cause jobs did not create an environment of conflict, where people were encouraged to fight for their idea and believes ? You need to do some research on Jobs, and if one product, look at the iPhone , competition within Apple

Cook firing Scott a test...... yeah right, Jobs would have done it a long time ago .... but yeah you could be right, he thought of a cunning plan to get a terminal illness and as a test the new CEO had to fired Scott ....

Thanks for stating he is the CEO. This is the Mac rumours site alas we have opinions

Alas we do have opinions here on MR. Just pointing out the obvious, which sometimes gets lost in the shuffle.

And I like cook, that’s my opinion.

 

[iPaintCode]

Alas we do have opinions here on MR. Just pointing out the obvious, which sometimes gets lost in the shuffle.

And I like cook, that’s my opinion.

"Obvious opinion pointing out you like Cook."

Your rebuttal is pointing out your own views, mention opinions, yet disregard people have the right to their own thoughts that don't align with yours. You have bias and that's your choice and mine doesn't align with yours so we will agree to disagree. Once Jobs came back and Sculley was canned, Jobs made damn sure he wasn't going to have a co-pilot oust him again. Like I mentioned above, Cook is a highly intelligent man who was one of the best at his role when Jobs was running the show. Apple's DNA is a product company at the core (or was) in search of the next best thing, not the highest profit margins. Jobs would have burned his own company to the ground before he would sell out his company as the most valued company.

 

[I7guy]

"Obvious opinion pointing out you like Cook."

Your rebuttal is pointing out your own views, mention opinions, yet disregard people have the right to their own thoughts that don't align with yours.

That's your opinion isn't it?

You have bias and that's your choice and mine doesn't align with yours so we will agree to disagree. Once Jobs came back and Sculley was canned, Jobs made damn sure he wasn't going to have a co-pilot oust him again. Like I mentioned above, Cook is a highly intelligent man who was one of the best at his role when Jobs was running the show. Apple's DNA is a product company at the core (or was) in search of the next best thing, not the highest profit margins. Jobs would have burned his own company to the ground before he would sell out his company as the most valued company.

Yes, we all have bias. Situation bias, confirmational bias, cognitive dissonance, etc. It all seems to come out in many of these posts with so many claiming they know how Jobs would have wanted to the company to be run today and what jobs would have or would not have done.

 

[Defthand]

And just how is "flatness" "essential to a tablet's function."?

Those who received a warped tablet said it rocks when layed on a table. These are iPad Pros that users are inclined to use a stylus with. Using a delicate pressure–sensitive tool with a moving surface is inviting frustration.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

Those who received a warped tablet said it rocks when layed on a table. These are iPad Pros that users are inclined to use a stylus with. Using a delicate pressure–sensitive tool with a moving surface is inviting frustration.

I could see that being an issue.

 

[amaze1499]

Looking at that statement Apple wouldn’t have a problem taking an iPad back if a customer want to return it.
Btw, nobody knows how many bend iPad pros they are actually are. So far it looks like one bend iPad and someone who claims, it was like that out of the box. I’d take it with a grain of salt.

 

[mrex]

Btw, nobody knows how many bend iPad pros they are actually are. So far it looks like one bend iPad and someone who claims, it was like that out of the box. I’d take it with a grain of salt.

how many times have you seen apple to give an answer if there were only one item that could have been replaced without any hassle with media?

and there are many bent ipads:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209403

 

[Irock619]

Just picked up my new iPad Pro 11” yesterday. It is perfect not to mention beautiful.

 

[amaze1499]

how many times have you seen apple to give an answer if there were only one item that could have been replaced without any hassle with media?

and there are many bent ipads:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209403

How many? 3? Lets check the facts. Not saying this thing does not bend easily. I reckon people want to have a problem they can rant about. They want to get upset. 90% of those who get upset dont even own an ipad pro. The 10% who do see this issue out of the box, could return it in no time. There is no issue.

 

[lambertjohn]

Just picked up my new iPad Pro 11” yesterday. It's perfect. Not bent at all. And like another poster said, it's also beautiful. I got the silver one by the way, and it rocks. So if you're on the fence about whether to get one or not, just do it. If it's bent, you can always take it back.

 

[mrex]

How many? 3? Lets check the facts.

or maybe there are only 4 but apple felt that they need to write about the issue on their webpages just for those 4 people.