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Apple Says Some 2018 iPad Pros Ship Bent, But It's Normal and Not a Defect
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Doesn’t really matter what Apple says,If they are bent in any visible form,then it’s a fault and a flaw and need to be refunded or replaced.
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I am being sarcastic that I always win, but definitely NOT sarcastic that 20% revenue and 41% earnings growth Apple just put up were nothing short of FANTASTIC.
The real numbers are outstanding. The speculation leads you to think Apple is going out of business and Huawei is taking over the world.
For the record, I don’t expect Apple to actually sell any cars. My guess is that they will enter the autonomous ride sharing market.
I guess you could extend the same concerns to whether you would dare sit in one of their cars though.
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And it looks like we have our answer.
Nowhere in the letter does Apple outright say that it's normal for the iPad to be bent.
Standard theverge clickbait.
You obviously missed my other posts.
Currently IPP 12.9 G2 LTE - on my 4th one. All quality issues.
I was looking at the newest to see if I was willing to upgrade.
So far based on what I am reading and seeing; no.
My guess is since they mentioned 400 microns as acceptable anything greater than that will be judged as abuse. They will have a way for the folks at the Genius Bar to determine how bad the bend is.
I'm a fan of Apple but it's amazing how very tone deaf they can be sometimes. This to me is similar to AntennaGate. Maybe it's not really 'that big a deal' but the perception is that it's a very big deal and instead of listening to their customers they are on the defensive about it. Replacement for any customer not satisfied is an option but how many boxes will they open until they find the one with no bend at all?
Again, just tone deaf. How could they possible think that any customer would be ok with a bent iPad Pro at these price points?
That spin isn't going to work. Apple hit a record breaking 1 trillion dollar market valuation because of the success of their products in the market, among normal people.Bent iPads considered normal. 5 years willful neglect of Mac Pro hardware. ****** laptop keyboards that now have a life-span shorter than the device itself. Cancellation of Time Capsule/Airport Express. Removal of user upgradable/repairable hardware. Apple Cinema Display abandonment. Price hikes across the board..... etc. But hey... Trillion dollar market valuation! A select few very rich people were made even richer! Woohoo!!
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That 30% is largely a normal fluctuation, and is still exponentially higher than anything Apple under Steve Jobs had ever reached.
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Financial success is literally the only measure of how well a company is doing.
So you are saying Steve Ballmer was the best CEO Microsoft had ?
What I am trying to explain to you , short term financal gain can have long term consequences . Do you realise that due to jobs hard work, he could have given the company to you and me .... and autopilot, it would have hit record financial gain due to the wave of success that’s it was riding at the time ?
Because they bend so clearly it’s not strong enough.
The affected owners are not making this up & it’s just insulting for Apple to tell them there’s nothing wrong.
Some units were bent out of the box due to manufacturing issues, true. But the materials are not substandard and you have no proof that they are.
Reverse that logic: You have no prove that they aren't (why would they bend otherwise?). Those manufacturing issues mean that at least the Q&A is substandard. On top of that Apple claims it is 'normal', while it clearly is not. You see: logic can go many ways.
In short: Your guess is just as good as anybody else's, but somehow you keep insisting that you are right and everybody else is wrong (or must be lying).
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I’ve got three colleagues who’s got bent Pro’s through no fault of their own.
Let me guess, my actual evidence isn’t good enough proof?
It’d be like handing the keys of a college team with a roster of nba all stars. Just hire a great team of assistants and sit back. Apple has enjoyed record numbers despite Cook. Imagine what could’ve been with someone of vision. As it is he’s left them badly positioned. Kind of a shame really.
Ah, the “all my friends think so, too” argument. So, no, of course it’s not enough proof, because I don’t know you, I don’t know your three colleagues, I don’t know the circumstances, I don’t know if you’re objective, I don’t know if you and I consider “through no fault of their own” the same thing, and I also don’t know if was just bad luck. At the same time, my experience and those of my friends was completely the opposite, so you understand why I don’t consider a subjective impression of an unknown person from the internet as “enough proof”.
I was thinking along the lines of something more substantial - like at least a semi-scientific test done by some journalist or something. Until then, my personal experience - and those of a few friends that got the new Pros - and Apple’s official statement - will have to do: that nothing is substandard on the new iPad Pros. Let me know if you find some solid evidence to the contrary.
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Post the same chart for AMZN, GOOGL, NFLX, FB, AMD, etc.
Then look at the entire market and take note this isn’t an AAPL story.
Markets can do crazy things in the short term. My point was that the last official numbers we got from Apple were outstanding and the business is doing great, better than ever.
Do you own stocks or do you just look at stock prices and think you know what you’re talking about?
Same apple in 2007 saying our gpus are not the same as everyone else's that are frying.
Then after most peoples warranties ended Apple says finally they have bad gpus also
Have you tried trading in at Best Buy they are currently offering it for 399 with the trade-in https://www.bestbuy.com/site/clp-co...e99adf427c27c952f50INT&id=pcmcat1541193241716
Potential for future growth is all that matters to investors. Apple has an insane amount of cash on hand but everyone panics the moment a "APPLE CUTS IPHONE ORDERS" story drops on the internet. If they think Apple will only sell 50 millions phones this year versus 52 million phones last year (for example) then the market responds and Apple's stock starts it's roller coaster ride until they announce "Hey we sold 55 MILLION phones this year".
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Steve Jobs was party to far more misses than hits. He was ingenious at curating but Apple is a very collaborative effort. He often strongly opposed ideas that eventually his team brought him around on. Putting iTunes on Windows. Rethinking their store format from scratch. The App Store. Also recall he was totes ok with selling Pixar to Disney and it went from a rock solid production company of wonderfully original movies to a routine sequel factory. He poo-poo'd large screen phones but Apple is so long game I wouldn't surprised if he at least knew of the 6/6 Plus' development and had been brought around on that too.
I agree that there are many changes at Apple that are a direct result of his passing and that maybe it's not quite the same company it was six years ago but that was inevitable. He wasn't going to live forever.
While I'm sure more rigorous testing/evaluation will be done, I direct you to JerryRigEverything's ipad pro "bend test". This junk bends under light to moderate pressure and as he says "folds like a piece of paper"- no wonder so many are bent out of the box. If this meets Apple's durability standards I'm speechless.
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Yup, I watched it before and learned two things from it. One: if you try to bend the iPad Pro, it will bend. Easier than the previous generation? Maybe, who knows. My thin OLED TV would bend quite easily too, most likely as it is just as thin as this iPad and 55” big. So, yeah, it probably would, only I’ll never know because I will not try to bend it.
Second thing I’ve learned is that some people will create videos where they ruin gadgets for clicks. They try to be funny in these videos and fail miserably, like in the video you linked. They do offer valuable information that metal bends, metal with holes bends even more easily, and aluminium scratches with a scalpel, so now I know not to scratch my iPad with a scalpel. Good info. Then again, the video does demonstrate how the iPad will perform in real life so.... no, wait. It doesn’t. It really doesn’t. Unless, of course, you want it to, in which case, it can equally demonstrate that your high-school ex was a really, really bad person or that lawyers are, in fact, mind-controlling intergalactic aliens.
But hey, the heart wants what it wants, and if you want it to mean this iPad is built badly because it makes you feel good about not buying it, you can use this as “proof”. In that way, you can use almost anything to prove almost anything. For example, you can find an Ariana Grande video and offer it as proof that faries exist. Naturally, Ariana Grande’s videos are not actual proof that faries exist in an objective, scientific meaning of the word, just like JerryRigEverything’s video is not proof that iPad Pro 3rd gen will bend during normal use. But it’s a good way to reinforce one’s predetermined emotions towards an expensive product.
Because, as you say, “light to moderate duress” can really mean whatever you want it to mean. It’s like that situation we’ve all been in: when the car of that high-school ex I mentioned gets damaged, it’s not because some rocks were thrown at it in a fit of rage, it is because of the substandard materials used. The rocks do create just light to moderate duress, after all.
Your denial and disbelief is exactly what a customer is going to receive from a apple employee when they try to exchange a bent iPad.
Playing the apple lottery is so stressful, why would anyone want to play that game to get a good product.
Your 55” TV isn’t intended to be used as a handheld portable device, is it? Poor comparison.