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Apple says some MacBook Pros affected by faulty Nvidia chips
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How do I intentionally burn out my GPU
Since Apple is being lame and not covering the GPU for the life of the product, I'm now in the crummy position of needing to intentionally burn out the GPU so that it gets replaced (rather than it failing promptly in the 25th month). Any suggestions? Loop a GPU-intensive game's timedemo?
Since Apple is being lame and not covering the GPU for the life of the product, I'm now in the crummy position of needing to intentionally burn out the GPU so that it gets replaced (rather than it failing promptly in the 25th month). Any suggestions? Loop a GPU-intensive game's timedemo?
A one year extension is way too little. When the Powerbook 5300 and 190 had logicboard issues, they extended to 7 years. It's unreasonable for Apple to limit it to one extra year, when the problem could easily show up after that. I'd think the very minimum should be three years like applecare, and even that is little given the cost of this machine. We're not talking about a $300 toy.
No kudos for apple given that other manufacturers openly admitted the issue a long time ago and that it has been affecting Apple laptops for a long time. This took too long to acknowledge and the remedy is too little.
No kudos for apple given that other manufacturers openly admitted the issue a long time ago and that it has been affecting Apple laptops for a long time. This took too long to acknowledge and the remedy is too little.
Since when is September 2008 "early 2008"? I'd consider early to be January, Feb., maybe even March.
This could mean that a lot of the MBP's in the sales channels could be effected, depending on when they were actually made. In other words, close to all of the 8600 equipped MBP's.
This could mean that a lot of the MBP's in the sales channels could be effected, depending on when they were actually made. In other words, close to all of the 8600 equipped MBP's.
I honestly haven't touched a game on my Macbook Pro but back in the day when I was PC gamer I would use 3dmark to test my video card when overclocking and doing stress testing:
http://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/3dmarkvantage/introduction/
Nobody guarantees the GPU for the life of the product. They warranty it for the duration of the warranty.
Apple has just increased their base warranty from 1 year to "1 year all parts, 2 years for GPU". That's it.
So, yesterday you were NOT going to purposely destroy your MBP, but today you are, because you have more warrantly than you had previously. Explain to me how that logic works...
As I understand it, "Early 2008" is the model (introduced late February 2008), as opposed to the "Late 2008" model (debuting on Tuesday).
My Macbook Pro has had two GPU failures, so the computer is on its third motherboard. And THAT one is going to be replaced next week because of defective fans (or sensors). Quite frankly, I'm looking forward to unloading it. I'm seriously thinking about getting as cheap a Mac Pro as I can (I already have a 30' display) and a MacBook for when I have to go on site to visit clients. My MacBook Pro has shown a tendency to go down at the most inopportune times....
Right, but there is a *reasonable* expectation that components don't fail within a few years. Since we know that if they fail now it's pretty much going to be because of a defect that was there from the beginning, Apple should either replace the part with a good part immediately (=a recall), or extend the coverage of that part for a period that is reasonable to expect that it would last had it not been defective.
personally, I think Nvidia should foot the bill for a recall, or share it with Apple. Customers should not have to pay for Nvidia's mess-up. I'm astonished that there were still defective units going out the door as late as last month.
You're right...it's astonishing that Apple continued to ship and manufacture MBPs with defective GPUs into September! They should definitely have a better solution than an additional year of warranty on a defective card (which will doubtless be replaced by another defective card...).
Wow, that's amazing. It only took them six months to admit. Apple is such a fast-moving, nimble company.
But even if they had wanted, I don't think they were in the position to be able to say something about it, they have a contract with nvidia don't they?
They probably weren't allowed to say anything about it publicly but I'm sure they have been aware of the problem and pressuring nvidia to come clean
It's sad when the replacements fail.I had three motherboards replaced in my Santa Rosa MBP that had graphics corruption and DVI out issues. Then I got a new machine two weeks ago and guess what: it woke up this morning this this:
That's a problem...
Sporatic
I have had the issues described, although sporatic. I have been unable to tie the issues to any specific task. Both issues happen approximately once a week on average. Although the screen scramble happens mostly while surfing the net and scrolling.
I have had the issues described, although sporatic. I have been unable to tie the issues to any specific task. Both issues happen approximately once a week on average. Although the screen scramble happens mostly while surfing the net and scrolling.
I posted this in another thread, but thought it would be relevant here as well.
There is no "after September" for this product. October is when production began on the new model. Apple states "in not so obvious terms" the entire production line is affected, May 2007- Sept 2008 is the full run of the 8600 for Apple... period.
When Apple states "may" and "some" referring to bad chips, they are actually counting on user habits frequent vs infrequent users. The problem is "due to a packaging defect" they are ALL packaged the same way, if not it would be reflected in the affected through dates which are clearly the entire run of the product.
This fix is not good enough, Apple now admittedly knows the part is faulty so it is there obligation to provide us with a recall that is clearly a DIFFERENT/CORRECTED part.
I once owned a car that had a plastic intake manifold that would weaken and crack, therefore fail early. It cost me to have this fixed, later on I received a letter stating the weakness in this part and that the automaker was replacing all the parts with a corrected part and refunding those who had replaced them out of pocket. This letter did not come from the automaker, it was the result of a class action lawsuit.
I bought my computer in August 2008, after apple knew it "may" be affected, they neglected to mention this selling point.
Apple needs to give us a clear solution to this problem or I'm afraid like just like automaker one will be provided for them.
There is no "after September" for this product. October is when production began on the new model. Apple states "in not so obvious terms" the entire production line is affected, May 2007- Sept 2008 is the full run of the 8600 for Apple... period.
When Apple states "may" and "some" referring to bad chips, they are actually counting on user habits frequent vs infrequent users. The problem is "due to a packaging defect" they are ALL packaged the same way, if not it would be reflected in the affected through dates which are clearly the entire run of the product.
This fix is not good enough, Apple now admittedly knows the part is faulty so it is there obligation to provide us with a recall that is clearly a DIFFERENT/CORRECTED part.
I once owned a car that had a plastic intake manifold that would weaken and crack, therefore fail early. It cost me to have this fixed, later on I received a letter stating the weakness in this part and that the automaker was replacing all the parts with a corrected part and refunding those who had replaced them out of pocket. This letter did not come from the automaker, it was the result of a class action lawsuit.
I bought my computer in August 2008, after apple knew it "may" be affected, they neglected to mention this selling point.
Apple needs to give us a clear solution to this problem or I'm afraid like just like automaker one will be provided for them.
I agree with you completely. The other post was describing how this new extension was forcing him to break his laptop. That's what I am astounded at. He gets INCREASED coverage, so now he's going to break it? I thought the point was not to break it...
For what it's worth, he might have one that won't break. I'm trying to get my head wrapped around why he's going to break his MBP on purpose and I am not (maybe it's because I bought Applecare... so I am out of luck on month 37 instead of month 25). You won't see me trying to kill my MBP come spring 2010 when the warranty is coming to a close.
I had something like that after I updated to 5.5. One or two people on Apple's discussion boards have noticed it too. For me it goes when I open system prefs and go into "Displays". Try that next time. I don't know if it's related to the nVidea problem although I have that too.
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this would have been excellent information two months ago when I had my blank screen issue...twice.
this would have been excellent information two months ago when I had my blank screen issue...twice.
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This Happened to me
Hey this same thing happened to my mac
im glad sorta that its not just my macbook
Hey this same thing happened to my mac
im glad sorta that its not just my macbook
Ouch; this sucks.
Ok, so how does this work when someone buys a MBP and the AppleCare? Do you get 1 year of warranty, then another 3 years warranty on top of that with AppleCare (for a total of 4 years)? Or do they just merge the original 1 year with the 3 years for a total of 3 years?
Seems to me, if you have AppleCare, the 2 years Apple offers is irrelevant.
Please confirm/deny my thoughts.
Ok, so how does this work when someone buys a MBP and the AppleCare? Do you get 1 year of warranty, then another 3 years warranty on top of that with AppleCare (for a total of 4 years)? Or do they just merge the original 1 year with the 3 years for a total of 3 years?
Seems to me, if you have AppleCare, the 2 years Apple offers is irrelevant.
Please confirm/deny my thoughts.