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Apple Says Stock 8-Core Mac Pro Available to Resellers by End of April, Suggests Custom Configuring Until Then

While the apology for the state of the MacPro was welcome, I'm not sure if and how Apple will regain the trust & confidence of Pro users.

It is no secret that the Apple has been spending less time on the Mac in general. Whose to say their next MacPro refresh, wont be left untouched for 3-4 years after it is released (not to mention Pro software, etc).

IMHO, Over the past 4 years Apple has damaged the Mac brand for Pro consumers. It's not just about the hardware refresh cycle, It's about software as well .... macOS, pro software(FCP, Logic, Aperture), new codecs(where is h.265), updated OpenGL, etc..

It's a shame, because all the work that Apple put into the Mac over the 2000s under Jobs', building the brand and trust, seems to have been left to languish.

Apple used to own the Pro market.
 
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Anyone who believes this fairy tale about future Mac Pros is not paying attention. Apple is knifing the Mac product lines. From what I see they will likely open MacOS for licensing to end users (bring your own intel box or lappy), and the rest of the products will have iOS running on A-series CPUs.
 
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maflynn said:
The thing that is curious is why will people buy these knowing that Apple has stated they're abandoning the Mac Pro design in lieu of new design.
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Yeah.. Now if they started at $1299 or something (ha!), someone might want a super Mac mini with ECC RAM and lots of thunderbolt... But even at the new prices it's hard to swallow.
 
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Lesser Evets said:
It's curious why people would want these after 3.5 un-updated years and rather lackluster benchmarks and internals (by today's standards). It would be better to buy a top-end iMac, and it would be cheaper.
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Unless the app (i.e. Final Cut) is written to take advantage of the multi-cores. There are not that many apps that can really take advantage of all the cores the Mac Pro offers.
 
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Lesser Evets said:
It's curious why people would want these after 3.5 un-updated years and rather lackluster benchmarks and internals (by today's standards). It would be better to buy a top-end iMac, and it would be cheaper.
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Completely agree. I understand how the design is appealing however.
 
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BillyBobBongo said:
Only reason I can think of would be if your current system has either died or isn't able to cope with your current project.

Other than that...I'd wait it out. What's 4 - 4.5 years between friends!? ;)
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The reason I bought mine was so that i could continue to be able to run Aperture in Yosemite. i don't have the time or the will to lean a new Application and Aperture is critical to me.
 
Drop the price significantly and I would buy one of these in lieu of missing non-anemic Mac Mini that should have been offered (quad with better graphics).
 
Why would ANYONE buy one of these right now, given yesterday's announcement of the major redesign?

Even if you desperately needed a high-end Mac now, a fully loaded iMac is still a much better value.
 
I personally don't think the Mac Pro (2013) is mediocre, even with its outdated specs. I have the base model with AMD D300s, but I upgraded the processor to an 8-core 3.3 Ghz Xeon (not a standard CPU, but it works perfectly) and 64 GB RAM. This machine is powering an LG 38" Ultrawide display and running much faster than my mid-spec 2016 15" MacBook Pro with the AMD 455 GPU.
 
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Shortly it will be a good time to buy one used off ebay. Prices are going to bottom out. Yay!

These are still great machines for, like, webdesign, handbrake queues, etc.. Buy a used EOL config, find and drop a retired 2697V2 chip in it, and let it encode my movies ad nauseam.

I'm gonna wait until I can get a good used one, mint condition quad-core even for like $1000~$1250, D300 and all.
 
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kemal said:
The thermals are so bad they can't create a trash can with 2017 spec CPU / GPU? Can't make the heat sink out of copper in a $5K computer? Can't up the fan speed and admit it is louder? Is there no one left at Apple who can read data sheets and run autoroute?
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they explain that without getting into technicals but they thought people will move to their multicore technology "Grand Central Dispatch" and modify their workflow/software across multiple GPU - for those that did that, the current model will work for them. Unfortunately, they missed the mark completely - but let's give them credit for swallowing their pride and going thru the expense of redesigning the box (for an important but VERY minor audience).
 
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i have a decked out Mac Pro trashcan since day 1, and it serves me well. Can't wait for the modular upgrade next year.

But who would purchase a mac pro at this time is beyond me.
 
I'm still waiting to understand what I'm meant to update a 2011 quad core mac mini with...

And I agree with others: Apple are still asking a huge price for MacPro hardware that was released and available in 2013.
The fact that it still can't even connect to the 5K Apple/LG display is just bizarre. And it's going to be like this for another 12-18 months?? Really?
 
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Lesser Evets said:
It's curious why people would want these after 3.5 un-updated years and rather lackluster benchmarks and internals (by today's standards). It would be better to buy a top-end iMac, and it would be cheaper.
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I have purchased two over the the past two months. When you need one you need one. And when you run Mac Only software, you don't have many choices. Not happy I just purchased an 8 Core model but what can you do?
 
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Lesser Evets said:
It's curious why people would want these after 3.5 un-updated years and rather lackluster benchmarks and internals (by today's standards). It would be better to buy a top-end iMac, and it would be cheaper.
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Because the iMac's CPU and GPU are laptop models and don't really cut it for demanding tasks, best current option is a hackintosh
 
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topgunn said:
Forget updating the components in the failed trash can design. Just throw updated components into the 2012 Mac Pro and it would sell like hot cakes.
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Although I completely agree with your reasoning, it's not going to happen. It would offend Jony Ive's sense of design. Practical designs don't float his artistic boat.
 
topgunn said:
Forget updating the components in the failed trash can design. Just throw updated components into the 2012 Mac Pro and it would sell like hot cakes.
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Right on! Its a behemoth but paying $5000 for outdated specs isn't going to sell.
The 2012 12 core still has some great numbers, even if the single core numbers aren't that great.
for someone that uses mP that old machine still kicks some ass!
 
Those who are still complaining, please show me a similar priced or cheaper workstation with the same or better specs.
 
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