Apple Says These Products Are Now Vintage

[Regulus67]

So what is keeping you in the Apple ecosystem? There are plenty of simple phones to choose from. Just curious.

It works very well, with mostly seamless integration.
Edit: deleted the long answer

 

[UltimaKilo]

It works very well, with mostly seamless integration. So why would I go back to PCs? I used one Samsung S5, for one year. Switching to the iPhone 6s was difficult at first. But it turned out that it was far better, even with OS updates.
Using the iPad is great when I am used to the iPhone. And I prefer the iPad to the iPhone for the bigger screen. It is fantastic to draw 3D models with the stylus. I prefer Shapr3D.
The macs don't force OS updates, or any updates. But I did like Win7 a lot. Win10 is ok. And I don't wish to move to Win11.
I use Numbers a lot. So now I am comfortable with spreadsheets. I hardly ever used Excel back in the day, when I had PCs.
For photos the iMac displays are fantastic. It felt like a big upgrade to move to P3 colourspace, and glossy screens.
And I have one Pro Display XDR 32".
I no longer put my PC in a closet, or use watercooling to make it quiet. Apple's hardware is quiet, and the Mac Pro 7,1 is a delight to upgrade, with no cable management.

So why would I shift away from the Apple products, when they are well integrated, and does everything I need?
I tried building my own PC with top hardware around 2008. And it was very expensive for that time, with dual CPUs on a Tyan motherboard.
Along with a 30" Dell monitor. And I added watercooling to keep it cooler, and more quiet.

I wish I had known about Apple and the Mac Pro 3,1 at that time. But I was firmly in the PC camp, and thought macs were to simplistic, when one couldn't even go into BIOS to optimise the hardware. As if that was very important.
Did I have bluescreens? Yes, when I pushed to far, or software bugs brought the system to a halt. Nvidia also had bugs that caused crashes.

Today I am more inclined to stick with what works well. And top speed is far less of a concern to me these days.
But I still need to be able to switch to Windows, for gaming. And that is not a problem with Intel macs like the Mac Pro 7,1. Even if I would have to consider the graphic card length if I were to use a non MPX card.

And I use facetime every day to stay in contact with a friend abroad. Back in the day, we used Skype, but that often dropped connection. Facetime I can use on the iPhone, the iPad Pro, or the iMac Pro. And it is very good.
Facetime is something I dreamt of when I was young, in the early 90s. So it still is a marvel to me, that it is possible.
Perhaps it is the most important app. Because it really isn't comparable to a phone call, when it lets you see who one is speaking to. Or to show the surroundings.
And yes, facetime still works well enough on an iPhone 6s, when I am out traveling

I meant for your phone. Rather than be stuck with a slow iPhone 6S (you could upgrade to an iPhone 14) to avoid the AI featured (which you can disable), you could just purchase something like a Lite Phone 2.

 

[Regulus67]

I meant for your phone. Rather than be stuck with a slow iPhone 6S (you could upgrade to an iPhone 14) to avoid the AI featured (which you can disable), you could just purchase something like a Lite Phone 2.

Oh right. It might be slow for almost everybody. And when the day comes when I am forced to upgrade, I can insert the SIM card in my iPhone 15 Pro Max, and use that.
I had to look up what kind of phone you are talking about. Thanks, but no thanks.

Honestly, I feel I should not have made any comments in this thread. So it is vintage now. Fine. But as a phone it is not slow. I can't talk or text faster anyway 🤣

I thought it was a nice point, that some users like myself are still using it, because we chose to. Not because we have to

 

[bzgnyc2]

I have an example of those graphics being lame, my kid has an i7-8700 bought used. It has the HD 630 graphics and was unable to properly run some computer game, possibly Minecraft. There was no ground under the moving character, only borderlines for the surroundings until you stopped, etc.

Intel Graphics have never been great gaming cards -- generally considered unusable for AAA games. We agree on that.

However, for general UI/UX they've been fine for many years. If the UI/UX in the next macOS requires so much power that the Intel 630 wouldn't be fast enough, a) what are they doing? b) I suspect the Intel graphics in the 10th generation Intel CPUs won't be fast enough either, and c) Intel Macs that can run on Intel graphics or discrete AMD as needed will probably need to run on AMD fulltime in the next version of macOS. b) and c) of course assume the next version of macOS supports Intel at all...

 

[FeliApple]

Sadly, the magic of the iPhone 6s has been lost. Apple removed complete 3D Touch functionality on iOS 13, even for iPhones with hardware support for it. One of the most egregious, absolutely nefarious software decisions ever. You destroy iOS devices with updates but it’s not enough. You have to remove features, too.

I am lucky enough to have a perfectly functioning iPhone 6s running iOS 10. It’s my favourite iPhone ever. I wish I could use it as a main iPhone, I love it. My main iPhone is an iPhone 16 Plus, but the utter perfection of the 6s running iOS 10 is something I haven’t forgotten.

I had an iPhone 6s on iOS 9 until 2020, when Apple’s A9 activation bug on iOS 9 forced it into iOS 13 and it lost (or was stripped from) 3D Touch functionality.

I’m lucky enough to have one with the complete feature set, on iOS 10. What Apple did to 3D Touch devices with iOS 13 is egregious, one of the most obvious displays of forced obsolescence I’ve seen with iOS. They nerfed the hardware-enabled functionality of older iPhones just because the newest iPhones didn’t have the hardware capabilities. Pathetic.