100% hope so. I have the new Hyundai Santa Fe with similar screen sizes.
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Apple Says These Vehicle Brands Plan to Offer All-New CarPlay Ultra
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My 2023 Genesis GV60 already has amazing CarPlay integration and last year they pushed an OTA update that allowed for Wireless CarPlay.
What's unique about it is the GV60 has two screens: Once for tachometers and one for Entertainment (aka, Apple CarPlay).
BUT, when Apple CarPlay is active it will actually REPLACE it's own Mapping software behind the tachometers with Apple's Maps and if you're using direction the HeadsUp Display works with Apple's Route Guidance!
HUGE kudos to Genesis' parent company Kia for embracing this technology for the benefit of it's users! (I'm looking at you GM. Ya morons...)
What's unique about it is the GV60 has two screens: Once for tachometers and one for Entertainment (aka, Apple CarPlay).
BUT, when Apple CarPlay is active it will actually REPLACE it's own Mapping software behind the tachometers with Apple's Maps and if you're using direction the HeadsUp Display works with Apple's Route Guidance!
HUGE kudos to Genesis' parent company Kia for embracing this technology for the benefit of it's users! (I'm looking at you GM. Ya morons...)
Oh boy, some tech press ( looking at you MacWorld) are going to have to eat humble pie on this one. They have been calling out Apple's CarPlay "failures" as one of their favorite "apple is doomed" stories.
I know when it was first announced years ago, Ford implied that the Mach-E would get it as a software update. I hope that's still true of already-sold Mach-Es.
But it's still appears to be built on top of Apple software libraries which have not been reliable lately. It also injects Siri into the mix, and Apple has yet to prove they can make Siri work 99.9% of the time. I have no issues with Apple running the entertainment system and showing me maps, but I've lost enough trust with them to want the out the instrument cluster or HVAC controls.
If it was 2018, I think I would have trusted Apple over what the car manufacturers were doing.
That’s a good thing too since so many features can be added later if the hardware is capable of supporting it. My car just got adaptive headlights a year after I bought it. I’ve gotten so many other features and upgrades, but that’s an easy one people can understand.
Still OTA updates are not in the majority of vehicles. I’d almost bet a weeks pay that none of Hyundai’s ICE cars have this feature. I don’t know for sure, but I feel like this would be a very safe bet.
Many electric vehicles don’t have OTA updates either. A good example is the new Dodge Charger Daytona. It’s a disaster because it has so many software bugs. Now they’re having to bring them in one by one and manually update. It’s not simply plugging something in either because they have to take apart components to be able to make the connection.
Volvo and Polestar are firmly in the Android Automotive camp now days (ie: the car’s native UI is Android Auto with Google stuff).
Not sure I see them adopting CarPlay Ultra without a major switch in allegiances!
Our (older) Ioniq 5 doesn’t have OTA updates. But you can still download software updates from Hyundai’s website onto a USB stick and install them yourself. No need to visit a dealer.
These updates only affect the infotainment and navigation software, though. It’s not like Tesla where software can update every aspect of the car’s functionality and behavior over-the-air, including safety critical functions like braking and autopilot.
They are owned by a Chinese corporation. I don’t think they have any serious allegiance to Google or Apple. I’m sure Tim Apple can butter up Xi Jinping and make it happen
It’s nice that they make it easy. I don’t understand why Stellantis made it so difficult on the Charger. Especially since that’s their first electric vehicle and they know there’s going to be problems.
I wonder if ICE Hyundai/Kia vehicles are able to be updated this way?
That’s a big letdown. It’s nice to have the capability to update the infotainment system, especially if it has GPS. It’s not anything new though. I have a ten year old car that has this capability. The problem is the manufacturer stopped making updates about eight years ago so they’re not very helpful. I hope this is not the case for Hyundai.
It only injects Siri into the mix if you choose to use it. If not, continue using whatever you previously used. For example, in my BMW, a short press on the assistant button gives me BMW's assistant and a long press gives me Siri. Most cars handle CarPlay similarly in this respect. Personally, I don't like talking to my car at all, so I use controls instead, but none of this will change with CarPlay Ultra.
I'm not quite sure what you meany by "built on top of Apple software libraries," but my understanding is that it effectively will provide: (1) normal CarPlay stuff that runs on your phone, and (2) an interface for the car's existing controls so that they may be used more seamlessly within CarPlay. Existing controls should continue to work as they always have, but you can use this interface if you want it.
In short, even if I shared your reliability concern, this doesn't suggest that any iPhone reliability issue would interfere with your ability to use your car's controls.
No Tesla still. I thought Timmy may have persuaded Elon to put it in when they were meeting up a bit last year. Dang...
Exciting times!
For those fighting the urge to upgrade cars I have the perfect money saving solution.. buy 1 reasonably priced car and then one crap car to make you appreciate the first one!
I have a 2015 Kia and then a 2004 ford ranger. Jumping from the ranger to the Kia feels like a Time Machine 😂
For those fighting the urge to upgrade cars I have the perfect money saving solution.. buy 1 reasonably priced car and then one crap car to make you appreciate the first one!
I have a 2015 Kia and then a 2004 ford ranger. Jumping from the ranger to the Kia feels like a Time Machine 😂
Look's like this is Apple's attempt at countering Google Built-in. I think it's too little too late. Because Google Built-in doesn't require another OS or a phone and means it is better tested to work with a given car.
Just like MB, I would be very skeptical of handing over car's controls to a phone that often has buggy OS updates.
But I would like to end by saying that I absolutely hate that automakers use screens for the climate control instead of using physical buttons. I would like physical buttons for everything other than basic infotainment. I don't want to have to use a screen to open/close windows, adjust a steering wheel, adjust climate control, etc. I will always try and buy a car that provides physical controls for these.
Just like MB, I would be very skeptical of handing over car's controls to a phone that often has buggy OS updates.
But I would like to end by saying that I absolutely hate that automakers use screens for the climate control instead of using physical buttons. I would like physical buttons for everything other than basic infotainment. I don't want to have to use a screen to open/close windows, adjust a steering wheel, adjust climate control, etc. I will always try and buy a car that provides physical controls for these.
That's not true. CarPlay can already project Maps to both the infotainment screen and turn instructions to the cluster. It'll even work with HUDs if you have one.
That has nothing to do with CarPlay Ultra, you can also control it with physical buttons.
To that I express a lack of willingness to give Mercedes-Benz any of my money since they don't want to provide consumers with a choice.
Currently driving a VW Golf. And hope CarPlay Ultra is a popular thing when I'm planning to buy a new car.
CarPlay and Android Auto are essential when I'm choosing a vehicle. I don't want to buy data plan for my car every year. I don't want to pay the dealer to upgrade the map, and instantly outdated.
CarPlay and Android Auto are essential when I'm choosing a vehicle. I don't want to buy data plan for my car every year. I don't want to pay the dealer to upgrade the map, and instantly outdated.
Can’t wait I have the EX 30!I’m glad that Volvo is going to be one of the first car companies to support this awesome new version of CarPlay!
Volvo was actually one of the very first car companies to support CarPlay (when CarPlay was first introduced) back in 2015:
Volvo's First CarPlay Vehicle in the U.S. is the 2016 XC90, Available Now
After long promising to implement CarPlay support in its vehicles, Volvo recently announced that the new 2016 XC90 is the company's first...www.macrumors.com
Although I'm excited to see what this really looks and feels like on a rental car in the next year or two when I travel, I really hope that CarPlay continues to get the same support it has now.
Right now, I have a car that according to what I can find, was the 3rd car ever to support CarPlay 2015 when it came out. (Although mine is a 2017 model of it, the infotainment was unchanged). And, it still works, and has handled every new phone and upgrade with grace. Other than upgrading to a USB-A to USB-C cable with the iPhones went to USB-C - it's just worked for a decade.
I really feel this is an achievement overall, the ancient 2015 sized screen (albeit very small by today's standards) just keeps working.
Here's to hoping they keep supporting the OG.
Right now, I have a car that according to what I can find, was the 3rd car ever to support CarPlay 2015 when it came out. (Although mine is a 2017 model of it, the infotainment was unchanged). And, it still works, and has handled every new phone and upgrade with grace. Other than upgrading to a USB-A to USB-C cable with the iPhones went to USB-C - it's just worked for a decade.
I really feel this is an achievement overall, the ancient 2015 sized screen (albeit very small by today's standards) just keeps working.
Here's to hoping they keep supporting the OG.
That's a really good data point especially if you compare it to the built-in system. I had a 2016 BMW with no CarPlay way back when and I can't imagine still relying on CDs or having no option other than SiriusXM, or 10 year old maps or no traffic.
Yet 10 year old cars with CarPlay still get up to date media options and maps. It's a huge argument for taking this stuff out of the car manufacturers' hands.
