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Apple Says U.S. Supreme Court Should Reject Samsung's Appeal Request
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Most likely it's cheaper to keep this going for all the free advertising it gets?
This is true, however Samsung have specifically copied Apple so much now that it's become a parody of itself it's so predictable and blatant. Whatever the last iPhone had will be in the next Galaxy, and the next example is just round the corner. Just watch the S7 have some poor copy of 3D Touch.
The idea that "look and feel" could be patented was dismissed back in the 90s with Apple vs Microsoft.
Nah, I don't remember that, I remember how it looked like a modern version of the SonyEricsson P800 and the next step in the ongoing trend towards phones with larger displays and fewer physical buttons. Sure, the HTML5 capable browser was a neat gimmick but ultimately useless without 3G connectivity.
For those who are still having doubts, here is a Ctrl+C Ctrl+V old post of mine.
If we just stay in 2015 territory then the design of the S6 is uncannily similar to the iPhone 6.
Beyond that you have the aptly named Samsung Pay (Apple's version is called Apple Pay).
The box and accessory design
The fingerprint scanner setup
The stock keyboard
Samsung Wallet
The headphones
Don't forget that's just recently. They have been doing this kind of thing for years now.
If we just stay in 2015 territory then the design of the S6 is uncannily similar to the iPhone 6.
Beyond that you have the aptly named Samsung Pay (Apple's version is called Apple Pay).
The box and accessory design
The fingerprint scanner setup
The stock keyboard
Samsung Wallet
The headphones
Don't forget that's just recently. They have been doing this kind of thing for years now.
Most people are real haters, though. I put on Facebook 'Well done Google' when they became the most valuable company. I explained they'd overtaken Apple and almost straight away someone said 'it's because Apple are ****'.
Retina Display, Touch ID, 64 bit chips, Apple Pay and now Force Touch. All flagship iPhone features which Samsung adds in the flagship Galaxy phone 6 months after Apple. Apple is accused of copying Samsung because they, years after Samsung and other smartphone makers had increased their phone screens, Apple did too. Oh, and widgets.
I'm not so sure they are that similar. I like the bands better on the samsung device however.
All the phones are around the same basic shape so thats not a huge one, "pay" like "music" are key words so its not really a biggy and of course they will put their name in front. The charger is huge, but then if Apple do wireless charging is that copying too? did apple copy the larger form factor? The main difference is the screen technology, the iPhone had much more unusable space top and bottom and the really worrying thing is the girl in the back of the samsung photo - has she followed through?
Does this make apple a patent troll in line with the other thread?
Just say...
It all just feels like a play ground hissy fit on every side.
All the phones are around the same basic shape so thats not a huge one, "pay" like "music" are key words so its not really a biggy and of course they will put their name in front. The charger is huge, but then if Apple do wireless charging is that copying too? did apple copy the larger form factor? The main difference is the screen technology, the iPhone had much more unusable space top and bottom and the really worrying thing is the girl in the back of the samsung photo - has she followed through?
Does this make apple a patent troll in line with the other thread?
Just say...
It all just feels like a play ground hissy fit on every side.
Sorry...but any patent that says "look and feel" should be invalidated. There has to be something that separates patents than look and feel. That is way to subjective.
Yes, that's really what Apple should do! Pay the patent troll, remove features to the users.
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The look and feel are trademarks and should be legally enforced.
Sorry if you are a Samsung shareholder.
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The stupid this is that Apple had widgets, much more powerful widgets, before Android even existed!
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Android STILL DOESNT have multitasking!
Sorry but most of Apple's look and feel patents they originally used to sue Samsung have been throw out...invalidated or considered FOSS. Read up on it....
If they are such good solid ground with their patents and claims......why would they NOT want their case to be heard in the highest court?
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Hmmm. Interesting because on one of the phones I have, which happens to be the Note 5, I can split the screen between two apps and use them at the same time. I guess it really depends on what you're defining as multitasking.
IF Samsung Infringe then so did Apple just as badly so shouldn't they be sued for $1 Billion dollars or whatever was the original amount was? I like Apple products but They have copied quite a lot over the years
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Look and feel of what? I have used Apple and Samsung products and they don't feel similar at all other than they both have glass screens and both are rectangles .....
Apple Devices:
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
iPhone 6 Plus
iPad Air
iPad Air 2
Samsung:
Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket
Samsung Galaxy S3
Samsung Galaxy S4
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014
Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5
IMHO Apple was just fishing and they happened t caught something in that and won a patent lawsuit....
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Fanboy much? Android had Widgets and Multitasking WAY BEFORE Apple had included it and Apple just recently added split screen for their tablets which their phones have yet to be able to do.
No Android? TouchWiz is just a GUI layer on top of Android, so the multitasking capabilities are most certainly a feature of the OS.
This has been going on for years. How many billable hours do you think the lawyers on both sides have racked up by now?
The idea of a GUI was found to not be patentable. A language could be invented, but you couldn't own the rights to language itself. You could own the way a GUI looks, but not the idea of a GUI itself. The reason Apple "lost" that case is because they had already licensed most of the infringing elements to Microsoft. The remaining elelements were successfully defended as being the only way to do it. Apple actually defended some of its icons and was awarded damages for those. Apple isn't saying they invented the smartphone UI, but are going after icons and elements that borrowed to heavly. Which they should, as they learned that is the part that they can protect.
Dont you know, to most of these people in this thread, the ONLY way Samsung hasn't copied 1:1, is if they came up with a screen that's a different shape and never made a rectangular phone...
OH wait, you mean they did? They went 16:9 before Apple? They went curved glass? they put capacitive buttons? they have smaller bezels/borders? they were plastic most of their generations, and now are all glass?
these don't sound like apple's devices do they?
I'm not saying that Samsung didn't copy ideas. they absolutely did. And so did Apple. And so did Moto, and so did .... on and on. every single company in tech has borrowed from eachother ideas for designs and implementations since the bloody 60's.
Technology is absolutely an industry, especially smartphones that have "Stood on the shoulders of giants". Anyone who believes that each of these companies have invented what they have or innovated what they have, in complete isolation, or in vacuum is a deluded fan boy.
Even, as revolutionary as the first iPhone was to the smart phone world (And it truly was), What they did wasn't in isolation, and wasn't outside of where people were already looking at steering the market. We were already moving to larger, touch screen devices. PDA's were already the craze. Blackberries were already selling millions, and the two segments were merging faster than ever. What Apple did, was use it's marketing muscle, as well as creative capabilities, to figure out how to do that better than anyone else at the time, using mostly existing technologies, that they did innovate by making work all-together for the first time.
SO these constant lawsuits... only have one victim. Not Apple. not samsung.
US! the consumer. Look at the breakdown (I believe Kdarling posted) about what Apple believes the individual breakdown costs are for each device sold. And then think about it. If Apple is also in licensing deals similar with other companies, and everyone has licensing deals with everyone else. How much of the cost of the device we are buying is licensing and going to other companies? and how much are our devices inflated in price just to pay for constant legal issues and these licensing deals, especially for things that are painfully obvious.
Well yeah. If I know I'm being robbed, and I stop buying things, eventually my neighbors will have more than me and I look like I gave up.
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Touchwiz is far more than just a skin. It does encompass the skin, but it's a very deeply integrated re-write of the Android code base. Included, is a custom Kernel exclusive to Samsung devices, and a whole whack of other hardware optimizing features, Including their multi-windowing capabilities.
Currently, Stock android does not have multi-window displays. Which seems like something that would have been obvious to add when Samsung got so popular with it, and they pushed tablet use of Android. Still don't understand why it's not in 6.0 either.
You should consider editing your post to only include things that actually share similarities. Keep the phone. There are enough similarities there, though not uncanny. White box? Dude let it go. If anything, Apple should follow Samsung's example and get rid of some of that packaging. You know, environmental responsibility and all. Keep the fingerprint animation. Definitely similar. Keyboard? I'm just going to assume visual impairment. There's nothing similar about those keyboard except they contain letters. Wallet image? Similar. Headphones? Unless Apple patented the color white, there's nothing similar about the shape of those headphones. Go with quality arguments instead of a hit or miss quantity. Just a suggestion.For those who are still having doubts, here is a Ctrl+C Ctrl+V old post of mine.
If we just stay in 2015 territory then the design of the S6 is uncannily similar to the iPhone 6.
Beyond that you have the aptly named Samsung Pay (Apple's version is called Apple Pay).
The box and accessory design
The fingerprint scanner setup
The stock keyboard
Samsung Wallet
The headphones
Don't forget that's just recently. They have been doing this kind of thing for years now.
Although I don't blindly support Apple in most cases I hope the Supreme Court declines to review this case. Our country has much more pressing issues worthy of review.
And the corporations like Facebook who are urging the court to review the case based on them not liking the award dollar amount should be ignored as their concern about them being hypothetically sued at some future date are not valid reasons for review.
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Yokohama isn't a low end tire.
And the corporations like Facebook who are urging the court to review the case based on them not liking the award dollar amount should be ignored as their concern about them being hypothetically sued at some future date are not valid reasons for review.
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Yokohama isn't a low end tire.
This is no, and never was, a battle about money or damage compensation. This is a battle to set precedent. Whichever side wins here cahgnes the tide for future developments.
TouchWizz does an hack on top of Android for multitasking, just like similar Cydia jailbreak hacks.
Android still doesn't hack multitasking.