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Apple Seeds Build 12D58 of OS X Beta 10.8.3 to Developers

iBug2 said:
Slow Shutdown is not universal. I don't have it on my rMBP. Either that or people's definition of slow isn't the same as mine. It takes at most 15 sec for mine to shut down and mostly it's around 5 seconds. That's not slow at all for me.
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Universal was a bad choice of words. I should have used "widely reported." I almost never shut down any of the computers I use, so I couldn't even say which, if any, of my computers are slow to shut down.
 
Been running all these 10.8.3 betas, and honestly, notice little if any difference over the previous official release. So This is definitely going to be a minor update.
 
Please somebody know for sure this new update that coming soon have the update for bootcamp for support windows 8 thank you
 
iBug2 said:
Slow Shutdown is not universal. I don't have it on my rMBP. Either that or people's definition of slow isn't the same as mine. It takes at most 15 sec for mine to shut down and mostly it's around 5 seconds. That's not slow at all for me.
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It is slow!!!

If you think in my case, when I had the 2011 13" MBP with Lion and the first version of ML, shutdowns always take less than 3s.

When I changed to rMBP the same time remained!

Now with the same powerful Mac but with a new version of software it takes 5 times more? The problem is 10.8.2!

So it is very slow and not justifiable.
 
zeeklancer said:
Wake from sleep problem is easy to fix.

sudo pmset -a standbydelay 43200

Double that number of you often leave your computer sleep longer than 12 hours.

4200 is the default if I remember correctly.

All this does is delay the sleep image from being written to the disk. Eg, it prevents the laptop from going in to super low power saving mode. With the 12 hour number you can expect to loose less than to around 1% battery, although I have never really seen that.

After 12 hours of sleep your computer does what it normally would do.
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I got this:
Warning: Idle sleep timings for "Battery Power" may not behave as expected.
- Disk sleep should be non-zero whenever system sleep is non-zero.
Warning: Idle sleep timings for "AC Power" may not behave as expected.
- Disk sleep should be non-zero whenever system sleep is non-zero.

I don't like my disks to go to sleep. No point on the rMBP.
 
Nightkrawler said:
Macbook Pro 2011 (MacBookPro8,3) here
Bootcamp + 12D58 Trying to download Bootcamp drivers:
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This Mac only supports Windows 7. :mad:
I REALLY hope they aren't serious but if yes it's typical Apple as windows 8 runs good after little tweaking.

In the info.plist of bootcamp:
Code: 
<key>Win7OnlyModels</key>
	<array>
		<string>MacBook7,1</string>
		<string>MacBookAir3,2</string>
		<string>MacBookPro5,5</string>
		<string>MacPro2,1</string>
		<string>Macmini4,1</string>
		<string>iMac10,1</string>
	</array>
Odd as my mac isn't in the incompatible list. My hope is that the download of the drivers just isn't available yet on apples servers and it resorts to the error above.
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Had the same error on my 2011 MBP MacBookPro8,2
 
My experience with 12D58:

1. Apps i have in the login items do not start.
2. Massive UI glitches.
3. Slow as hell shut down.
4. SkyDrive broke for some reason and i had to go through the setup wizard again.
5. Folder actions stopped working, so i had to remove them and add again.

P.S. This is ****ed up by the way.
 
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Nightkrawler said:
In the info.plist of bootcamp:
Code: 
<key>Win7OnlyModels</key>
	<array>
		<string>MacBook7,1</string>
		<string>MacBookAir3,2</string>
		<string>MacBookPro5,5</string>
		<string>MacPro2,1</string>
		<string>Macmini4,1</string>
		<string>iMac10,1</string>
	</array>
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Ouch. Hopefully that list isn't final, and some stuff gets removed. Is that even the complete list? I'd assume the MacBookPro7,1 would be on there, since it's the same chipset/GPU setup as the MacBookAir3,2 and MacBook7,1. Though those all run fine under 8, and have official drivers for the chipset/GPU. Does Apple just not want to support anything older than 2 years?
 
Release it already!

Oh, Lord! ML is such a load of bugs!

Where it is going to? This "peace of work" does not even work right on Hacs, not to mention authentic Macs. On ML, I have to reboot every week or so as it starts to crap all over itself (mdworkers and etc.). On the surface it appears to be working, but when you open Console you can see - it is buried in its own poop:

[UserEventAgent] Bug: 12C60: libxpc.dylib + 36100 [FAC04D8B-680E-325F-8F0C-DD69859D0E01]: 0x3,

[sandboxd/mdworker/Mail] BUG in libdispatch: 12C60 - 1510 - 0x4,

[distnoted] Bug: 12C60: liblaunch.dylib + 23849 [2F71CAF8-6524-329E-AC56-C506658B4C0C]: 0x25,

[com.apple.security.pboxd]Bug: 12C60: liblaunch.dylib + 23849 [2F71CAF8-6524-329E-AC56-C506658B4C0C]: 0x25

and all kind of varieties are all over the logs).

I do not even want to mention what they did to Samba and Time Machine.

Bugs, Bugs, Bugs...

I do not reboot my Windows boxes for months.

Shameful, really.
 
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The Bulge said:
My experience with 12D58:

1. Apps i have in the login items do not start.
2. Massive UI glitches.
3. Slow as hell shut down.
4. SkyDrive broke for some reason and i had to go through the setup wizard again.

P.S. This is ****ed up by the way.
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Havent tried Skydrive, but not seeing the other 3 issues on any of 4 computers.
 
The Bulge said:
My experience with 12D58:

1. Apps i have in the login items do not start.
2. Massive UI glitches.
3. Slow as hell shut down.
4. SkyDrive broke for some reason and i had to go through the setup wizard again.
5. Folder actions stopped working, so i had to remove them and add again.

P.S. This is ****ed up by the way.
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I don't have the first 3 issues on my machines with D58. Don't use SkyDrive and haven't looked at Folder Actions.
 
LlamaLarry said:
I guess I am missing something, closing your MB lid is not shutting down (or rebooting). What exactly is happening now when you close your MB that did not happen before? :confused:

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I do have MBAs but no rMBP or SSD MBPs. How long is it taking to shut down now vs before?
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With Lion 10.7.5 and earlier iterations of 10.8 (i.e. 10.8.1), mid2012, 2.7GHz SSD MBP takes about 4 seconds to shut down, and about 15-20 seconds to hard reboot from useable to useable. 10.8.2 slowed it to about 1-1.5 minutes on my machine (like 40 seconds or more to just shut down). Thus, the clean re-install of 10.7.5 in my case to get away from 10.8.2. Plus, the ML software was just plain buggy.
 
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Apple should fix the existing bugs first before spending any time on new features and social crap. They should give that Forestal dude to MS :D
 
JGRE said:
Apple should fix the existing bugs first before spending any time on new features and social crap. They should give that Forestal dude to MS :D
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Forestall didn't work on OS X. Also, 10.8.1-3 are all updates for bug fixes.
 
FrancoisC said:
I got an honest question...

Why does it matter if the machine is a little slow to shut down? I don't shut mine off very often, I let it go to sleep, but when I do shut it down, I click on it and leave, I don't wait for it to be off, no need.

I don't want to sound "trollish", I'm just wondering why it matter?
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electricity bill is probably one reason...
 
koban4max said:
electricity bill is probably one reason...
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Unless you're encoding videos 100% of the time, you Mac/Computer must be the thing that use the less power in you entire home, so I don't think that's a good answer...

Anyway, 5 sec shut down time, or the 2-3 minutes some people are experiencing, you'll be lucky if there's a nickel of difference on your electricity bill, and that's for the whole year!

But I got an answer above, about the shutdown taking hours for some people :/
 
FrancoisC said:
Unless you're encoding videos 100% of the time, you Mac/Computer must be the thing that use the less power in you entire home, so I don't think that's a good answer...

Anyway, 5 sec shut down time, or the 2-3 minutes some people are experiencing, you'll be lucky if there's a nickel of difference on your electricity bill, and that's for the whole year!

But I got an answer above, about the shutdown taking hours for some people :/
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nope...computer uses alot.
 
Anyone know if choppy animations and memory leaks related to Nvidia GPUs have been fixed? :eek:
 
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FrancoisC said:
Unless you're encoding videos 100% of the time, you Mac/Computer must be the thing that use the less power in you entire home, so I don't think that's a good answer...

Anyway, 5 sec shut down time, or the 2-3 minutes some people are experiencing, you'll be lucky if there's a nickel of difference on your electricity bill, and that's for the whole year!

But I got an answer above, about the shutdown taking hours for some people :/
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If you use a Mac mini maybe…:rolleyes:

My computer takes about 5 minutes to shut down sometimes. Sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less.
 
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