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Apple Seeds First Beta of iOS 10.2.1 to Developers

Ds6778 said:
I'm starting to lose faith. The worst part is, older hardware runs iOS 10 better then newer hardware? What?! Don't get me wrong, there are still a lot of issues littered throughout older devices too. The fact that scrolling through my messages app, scrolling through photos, jumping in and out of apps, scrolling down my notifications and doing pretty much anything makes this, "fastest phone on the planet," hiccup and drop frames is beyond me..... You can take your benchmarks and blow them out your arse. I've been waiting since iOS 7 for Apple to fine tune iOS and get rid all these little inconsistencies and performance issues. It's almost reminiscent of Samsung, benchmarks through the roof, performance was a pile of poop. I never thought I was see the day where android would not only be on the same level, but surpass iOS as far as fluidity is concerned. I used the Pixel for a few days and with "slower hardware," it still ran like a dream. Not perfect, but way more consistent and fluid then my 7 Plus. We used to poke fun at android fans in recent years for their "laggy" phones.....I'm not ditching Apple, nor do I think Apple is doomed. It's just hard to come to terms with Apple just not caring about the little details that made the iPhone the iPhone. I'm still holding out hope for a .1 release that mitigates all my complaints. :)
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Exactly how I feel. I'm really not one of those 'if Steve Jobs were alive...' people but....who is looking at iOS with its stutters and frame drops and going 'Yep - looks fine. ship it'?

I wish an entire point release could be devoted to making iOS smooth again. Hmm...that sounds like a slogan that could be used at WWDC 2017.
 
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TurboPGT! said:
AWw man yer so clever, wish I would have thought of that.

Wouldn't be possible for you to comprehend that iOS has only ever shown a percentage and never an "estimated time remaining", which is the same as macOS now.
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I think he knew that... know what sarcasm is mate?
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Scottsoapbox said:
Have they replaced the terrible new TV app yet?
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Could've stayed on iOS 10.1
 
It may be my imagination but has the font changed in the Music app when you click on the ... for a track? I'm sure I used to have to scroll sometimes to get to the Track Rating menu item but I don't any more?
 
agsystems said:
well -that's the question - are people just thrill of getting new software but then not provide any feedback? In our case as long as messaging, phone, sales force, Office and HR apps are working, we don't care if anything else its not working - Apple has to rely on their internal testing but obviously this hasn't been good enough as of late.
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You can't imagine the number of reports i send, with no change. each time i keep reporting bugs since iOS8. I received a reply from apple i believe it was something related to the stuttering effect; rather than this i got nothing.
 
My experience with IOS 10 on an iPhone 6s has been miserable, and I really wanted to upgrade to IOS 10.

From IOS 10.0 through 10.1.1 I suffered constant lockups of the dialer & contacts app and when Bluetooth synced with my auto, the contact name and phone number are listed, but not the type of phone number (e.g., mobile, work, fax, etc.), so I have to constantly pickup my phone when driving to select the appropriate contact phone number to dial, which is illegal to do when driving in California or Nevada. I never had these problems with IOS 9.

With IOS 10.2, the dialer/contact app lockup problem seems to have been resolved, I'm not sure if the auto Bluetooth sync problem is fixed, but now I'm seeing first hand the "battery drain" problem reported by so many iPhone 6/6+/6s/6s+ users. It's horrible, after your battery reaches about 30%, in a matter of minutes the battery will suddenly drop to single digits with the phone simply in idle.

This is not simply a rant, I generally like IOS 10 and I love my iPhone, but I have never had so many problems with an IOS release since starting with my first iPhone 3s years ago. The worst part, apparently there is no legit way (i.e., sanctioned by Apple) to downgrade back to IOS 9 while Apple resolves issues with IOS 10.

This has been horribly frustrating, plus think about the Apple watch users who suffered "bricking" when their update was released just the other day.

Apple's quality control for software is going downhill. Yes their product line and software line are increasing in complexity and innovation, but still, the problems reported by thousands of users when it comes to IOS seems to be getting worse rather than better.
 
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jonnyb said:
It boggles my mind that we have hardware of the calibre of the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus, and we get such horrible choppy scrolling and frame drops.

I hate to say it, but my Pixel's scrolling is super smooth. I never thought I'd see the day when Android's UI was smoother and more fluid than iOS's.
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I tried one in bestbuy and had the exact opposite impression when I held my iPhone 7 Plus beside it and scrolled through same webpage. The pixel seems clunky.
 
Hopefully they'll address the bluetooth audio drop out/skipping issue with the iPhone 7 Plus with this. A few friends and I reported the bug last week after Apple support told me no one else had and just had me restore my phone (which didn't fix the issue). Bluetooth audio on my car and sometimes with my Bose headphones is pretty much unusable if I attempt to do other things on my phone while music is playing - or if background notifications come in. Skips like a CD...
 
MacRumors said:



Apple today seeded the first beta of an upcoming iOS 10.2.1 update to developers, two days after releasing iOS 10.2 and three months after introducing the new iOS 10 operating system.

Registered developers can download the new iOS 10.2.1 beta from the Apple Developer Center or over-the-air with the proper configuration profile installed.

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It's not yet clear what features are included in iOS 10.2.1, but as a minor 10.2.x update, it's likely to focus on bug fixes and performance improvements rather than major outward-facing changes.

iOS 10.2.1 comes shortly after the release of iOS 10.2, a major update that brought new emoji, the TV app, new Messages Screen Effects, Music improvements, and a whole slew of bug fixes.

Article Link: Apple Seeds First Beta of iOS 10.2.1 to Developers
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My apple EarPods inline controls do not function since updating to 10.2
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Is MacRumors ever gonna update their post with what is in this beta or are they just gonna click-bait articles and want people to read about nothing?
 
slimothy said:
Is MacRumors ever gonna update their post with what is in this beta or are they just gonna click-bait articles and want people to read about nothing?
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The discussions in the threads are what often surface the changes. If there's something noteworthy often enough it gets back to the actual article that gets updated with it (or perhaps a new articles about the changes is posted sometimes as well). The articles of this nature are first/primarily to notify that there has been a release and provide a place to discuss it.
 
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fokmik said:
PLZ APPLE, FIX THE GOD DAMN bluetooth issue that causing no messages notifications to come when you have the screen off and BT ON !
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How wide spread is this? Of the 4 iPhone 7/7 Pluses in my house, none of them are experiencing that bug.
 
eoblaed said:
How wide spread is this? Of the 4 iPhone 7/7 Pluses in my house, none of them are experiencing that bug.
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There are significant bluetooth bugs for the AT&T model 7/7+, with lots of issues with dropped/garbled audio especially in vehicles. I'm hoping this fixes it!
 
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tethead said:
There are significant bluetooth bugs for the AT&T model 7/7+,
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Got to be careful with saying "AT&T model 7/7+"… again, it is the Intel-radio A1778/A1784 models that are the "Apple supported" models on AT&T and T-Mobile. HOWEVER! Depending on where the user got the iPhone, they COULD have gotten a Qualcomm-radio A1660/A1661! Best Buy, Target, etc are giving the Qualcomm-radio iPhone out for everyone, regardless of carrier. This could be why some "AT&T customers" aren't seeing the Bluetooth problems… they might not have an Intel-radio "AT&T" iPhone. At this point I have seen no reports that ties the Bluetooth quality issues to AT&T LTE frequencies (although I have seen users report disabling LTE helps/resolves) regardless of radio manufacturer; only reports that states the issue ties to the Intel radio.
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fokmik said:
PLZ APPLE, FIX THE GOD DAMN bluetooth issue that causing no messages notifications to come when you have the screen off and BT ON !
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Where are you seeing this behavior, please be specific.

I have filed nearly a half-dozen bugs with Apple on Bluetooth headset Notification sound "capture" issues in the past two years, specifically wrt iOS capturing A2DP/AVRCP devices as the default "AirPlay" output device and dragging Notification sounds along with it. Apple and I have a significant difference of opinion on whether this should be "default behavior". Thus far, I have not "won". I'm glad to see it is annoying others… perhaps we're on the way to getting it fixed. It certainly does NOT "works as intended" for anyone I've met who uses Bluetooth headsets; not sure who Apple is talking to. It only happens to A2DP/AVRCP devices, not HSP/HFP devices… as far as I can tell. [Apple never answers my question of what EXACTLY is their INTENDED Bluetooth behavior. They like to keep us guessing, I suppose.]

In my testing so far with iOS 10.1.1:
•iOS is playing keyboard "click" sounds through the Bluetooth device when "captured" (REALLY? can you eat a headset's battery any faster?)
•Some (perhaps all?) Bluetooth car audio systems cause iOS to switch from a Bluetooth headset to the car audio system when the car is turned on, EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF A CALL, regardless of the Accessibility:Call Audio Routing setting; this clearly should NOT be intended behavior, as most headset audio quality is significantly better than just about any car audio speakerphones (Maybe with the exception of Tesla… theirs is pretty nice. But… Then again, would explain Apple's moronic choice here, if anyone has ever seen the parking lots at 1 Infinite Loop.)
•iOS will automagically connect to some Bluetooth car audio systems—I know some VW—if paired, even if the car audio system does not have the Bluetooth audio set as "active". This basically means audio is captured from the iPhone and sent into a blackhole in the car audio system, including Notification sounds and navigation.

I can report that Apple has seemingly resolved Call Audio Routing issues with Phone, FaceTime and FaceTime Audio in iOS 10.1.1 and 10.2. Between iOS 9, 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, and 10.0, Apple played a comical game of Regression-pede, where various incarnations of answering calls would not make it to a Bluetooth headset. Infuriating for hearing impaired users like myself. I imagine, as Bluetooth devices proliferate, thanks to hands-free laws and car makers finally getting up with the times, as well as Apple jumping into the market with AirPods and BeatsX, we're going to see the frustration level start to rise with the "common folk" as it has been with the hearing impaired and headset users for nearly 5 years. Apple has just been out to lunch on it.
 
ScooterComputer said:
Got to be careful with saying "AT&T model 7/7+"… again, it is the Intel-radio A1778/A1784 models that are the "Apple supported" models on AT&T and T-Mobile. HOWEVER! Depending on where the user got the iPhone, they COULD have gotten a Qualcomm-radio A1660/A1661! Best Buy, Target, etc are giving the Qualcomm-radio iPhone out for everyone, regardless of carrier. This could be why some "AT&T customers" aren't seeing the Bluetooth problems… they might not have an Intel-radio "AT&T" iPhone. At this point I have seen no reports that ties the Bluetooth quality issues to AT&T LTE frequencies (although I have seen users report disabling LTE helps/resolves) regardless of radio manufacturer; only reports that states the issue ties to the Intel radio.
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Fair enough. I believe then that my AT&T iPhone 7+, which came direct from Apple's Upgrade Program as an unlocked device and sold connected to an AT&T account, is using the Intel chipset. I would find it hard to believe that I received a Qualcomm one, though I suppose it's possible. Disabling LTE sometimes does help it considerably, but not always (I was running the 10.2 GM earlier today and had issues in my car still). So, hoping that the latest beta improves things... but, I'm not at all hopeful at this point, as this seems to be more of a hardware issue than anything else. If it continues, I'll continue submitting bug reports...
 
Fix the TV app. I'm only using for local shows and Home Sharing as before and it freezes constantly.
 
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