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I think some of you aren't understanding my posts. Public betas are a good thing. That is not what I am discussing.

Well, that's strange, since this thread is about a beta.

I'm talking about GM's if you will, still being betas or as buggy as betas yet calling them a proper final build and then releasing them, to only find out they're just as buggy or more buggy than the last, and the same nagging everyday issues are still present.

That's hard to quantify. The releases seem to work fine for hundreds of millions of people.
 
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Thanks! I know it's not a problem with the stick itself as it works with my wife's 6s, and the only thing that has changed with my phone is iOS. I'll try the stick headphones to see if they can take a pic with the volume button. It's has to be something with iOS though, because the selfie stick worked before with this phone.
Another user said he had same issue See post 43 and reset all settings.
 
No software is flawless, and no software will be or can ever be flawless. When you introduce more code, the probability of it breaking something that was working before goes up.

Not so if you apply the right amount of qualified resources, listen to the software engineers when they say its not ready, and have the attitude that bugs are not acceptable. However, with Apple bugs are just fine as long as the bling is powerful and the schedule is met. Attitude and knowledge reduce bugs, something Apple seems to be losing in abundance.

But hey, Apple thinks just like you, "Its only a bug, no big deal someone else will fix it later." Great strategy for running a multibillion $ company.
 
Well, that's strange, since this thread is about a beta.



That's hard to quantify. The releases seem to work fine for hundreds of millions of people.


You're right, this is about a beta. A beta that is coming less than a few weeks after the last public release of a build to all users. And apparently they haven't fixed that much during this beta as Apple can't even post a change log or what have you. That's the gist of my argument. Instead of pushing a beta, or trying to rush out 5 or 6 or 7 betas, do two or three betas and have more fixes in between. But I guess when you have nothing but bugs every release, the shorter time span between beta releases, the easier it is to narrow down what you screwed up...

Sure the releases seem to work fine, but usually when there are multiple people posting in one bug thread with the same issue, chances are, the majority have it and just don't care, don't know it, or don't know what avenue to take to try and get it remedied.

As I said, betas aren't bad, public releases with a number change that still have beta type bugs in them, is.
 
Not so if you apply the right amount of qualified resources, listen to the software engineers when they say its not ready, and have the attitude that bugs are not acceptable. However, with Apple bugs are just fine as long as the bling is powerful and the schedule is met. Attitude and knowledge reduce bugs, something Apple seems to be losing in abundance.

But hey, Apple thinks just like you, "Its only a bug, no big deal someone else will fix it later." Great strategy for running a multibillion $ company.

There is a difference in a critical bug that causes security issues or the device does not work, vs lag and aesthetics. But that still doesn't change the fact that no software will ever be perfect. It is impossible to make bug-free software. That hasn't changed in the last 20 years and won't change in the next 20 years. There will always be an unexpected consequence when you have millions of lines of code. I'm not defending Apple here, as I said in a previous post. Just stating the facts of software complexity.
 
I really can't wait for the updated iOS version - even if I am not putting my hopes too high because I feel that Apple's software quality of late has really dropped dramatically. Maybe they are concentrating too much on carbon rooftops, 18 foot wood tables and pinkish watch bands, but iOS 9.3 has been an absolute disaster and lagfest on my iPad Air. And it's not only cosmetic things like terribly laggy animations but when you click on search fields and the keyboard refuses to pop up it makes me want to throw this thing out of the window. :mad:
 
There is a good reason why they are made for developers, they are meant for people who are capable of dealing with problems. If you want betas to go onto Facebook, public betas are the thing.

I was part of the public beta and it was a constant disaster, just not worth the trouble.
 
Um, actually no Romance. Yes, I don't care for Craig's Bloatware AKA 9.3. Also, it's "They were." :apple:

Before you try to correct someone, you should make sure you're right. "There were", referring to there were buggy releases during the Forstall era is correct. They were buggy releases would make no sense.
 
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I really can't wait for the updated iOS version - even if I am not putting my hopes too high because I feel that Apple's software quality of late has really dropped dramatically. Maybe they are concentrating too much on carbon rooftops, 18 foot wood tables and pinkish watch bands, but iOS 9.3 has been an absolute disaster and lagfest on my iPad Air. And it's not only cosmetic things like terribly laggy animations but when you click on search fields and the keyboard refuses to pop up it makes me want to throw this thing out of the window. :mad:

Are you referring to 9.3 or 9.3.1? Cause 9.3 on my rMini (iPad Minin2) is THE SMOOTHEST it's EVER a been on iOS 9!! I feel like I got a brand new iPad Mini -- FINALLY. This is seriously not an understatement !!

I then updated (restored) to 9.3.1 -- OH. EM. GEE. What a DISASTER. Terrible lag EVERYWHERE. Like you, it made me want to throw this thing out the window after having been on 9.3. I couldn't take it anymore and downgraded back to 9.3 from 9.3.1. (I always restore to latest firmwares btw. I never do updates.)

Lesson learned: I'm not updating to next versions of iOS or 9.3.X iterations until I know for certain it's not gonna slow my rMini down to the point where it makes me to go buy a new iPad mini. 9.3 has been smooth as butter!! i LOVE IT. This is what iOS 9 should've been like since day 1!!
 
Um, actually no Romance. Yes, I don't care for Craig's Bloatware AKA 9.3. Also, it's "They were." :apple:
It's fine that grammar is not your specialty, since I'm pretty sure it's against the rules to correct grammar anyway. And if you really think iOS was more stable back then we must've had very different experiences.
 
I then updated (restored) to 9.3.1 -- OH. EM. GEE. What a DISASTER. Terrible lag EVERYWHERE. Like you, it made me want to throw this thing out the window after having been on 9.3. I couldn't take it anymore and downgraded back to 9.3 from 9.3.1.

9.3 and 9.3.1 are virtually identical except for fixing the booking.com-related link bug. You can tell by how rather small the update is. Your experience must be due to other factors, not due to that update per se.

(I always restore to latest firmwares btw. I never do updates.)

…why?
 
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Are you referring to 9.3 or 9.3.1? Cause 9.3 on my rMini (iPad Minin2) is THE SMOOTHEST it's EVER a been on iOS 9!! I feel like I got a brand new iPad Mini -- FINALLY. This is seriously not an understatement !!

I then updated (restored) to 9.3.1 -- OH. EM. GEE. What a DISASTER. Terrible lag EVERYWHERE. Like you, it made me want to throw this thing out the window after having been on 9.3. I couldn't take it anymore and downgraded back to 9.3 from 9.3.1. (I always restore to latest firmwares btw. I never do updates.)

Lesson learned: I'm not updating to next versions of iOS or 9.3.X iterations until I know for certain it's not gonna slow my rMini down to the point where it makes me to go buy a new iPad mini. 9.3 has been smooth as butter!! i LOVE IT. This is what iOS 9 should've been like since day 1!!

My problems started right with the activation debacle of 9.3 unfortunately. After finially being able to start up the iPad, Safari and other system apps constantly froze the system to a standstill. I had to reboot this thing at least every 5 min.

Before 9.3, I thought this iOS version was great and my iPad was running fantastic. But after that it all went downhill. Even the night shift mode doesn't work at all times. I had on one occasion night shift not following the automated schedule and the screen was yellow, when I picked up my iPad in the morning. Color me not impressed.

The latest icing on the cake: iMovies on my iPad refuses to show the latest clips I uploaded onto the Theater yesterday. On my Apple TV and iPhone movies are showing with no problems.

If the next iOS version fixes these things, then I won't upgrade anymore and hold on to this version as long as I can. Likewise my few Macs in our household. El Capitan was a nightmare upgrade, too, with manual deletion of Kernel extensions, etc. No thanks!
 
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Um, actually no Romance. Yes, I don't care for Craig's Bloatware AKA 9.3. Also, it's "They were." :apple:

If you tell someone about grammar at least get it right.
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9.3 and 9.3.1 are virtually identical except for fixing the booking.com-related link bug. You can tell by how rather small the update is. Your experience must be due to other factors, not due to that update per se.



…why?

Because reasons
 
9.3 and 9.3.1 are virtually identical except for fixing the booking.com-related link bug. You can tell by how rather small the update is. Your experience must be due to other factors, not due to that update per se.



…why?

Yes I know they're virtually identical. That's why I restored to 9.3.1, because I knew, supposedly, all that apple did was fix the link issue, and that it should be a safe good firmware, after having such a great experience on 9.3. Well, I was wrong.. because it slowed down my rMini BIG TIME.

What other factors? There are no other external factors that I can think of.. It was the EXACT same backup, both on 9.3 and 9.3.1. No additional or new apps, to try and blame it on a rogue app. So what other factors are you referring to?


I restore to the latest firmware in order to prevent any residual bad code.. Yes I know it's probably not "necessary" but its a peace of mind issue. (aaaand.. just in case a jailbreak is released. jailbreaks never work if you update to the latest firmwares, for whatever reason. you generally had to have restored.)
 
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