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Ventura installed on two Macs - Mac Studio and iMac.

The new System Preferences really sucks if you are used to Icon view. It now looks like Windows 11/Ubuntu preferences. It will take a couple of months to get used to. They put tooooo many options in each category now and it’s much harder to navigate and read.

Stage Manager is a bit sucky. It has some bugged animations if you click on the Desktop. The minimised Icons on the left look low res and like they were drawn by an amateur graphics artist. I really don’t like the way they are angled in perspective. They should be just a face on/square.
 
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I'm really hyped for Stage Manager.

So much of my workflow is just having to be able to drag and drop files while working into other apps ala outlook, adobe acrobat, etc. However, I get some major screen clutter with all the other windows open from finder, safari, slack, music, etc. that it gets really chaotic. Looks like stage manager will clean up that clutter while still letting me work with other files. The drag and drop implementation they built looks like everything I could have hoped for had I known this was coming.

I hope they keep the focus on functional tools in MacOS. These are the things that actually make a difference for us traditional paper pushers.
 
I'm really hyped for Stage Manager.

If you a long time Mac user then you will remember Minimize In Place and Piles. These were two rumored and also beta features years ago. That’s what Stage Manager kinda is.

I’m playing with it now and meh…I don’t like them take up space on the Left side of my screen. It also replaces Minimize to the Dock. Command+M now minimizes to Stage Manager. It’s just not clean, but it is a good way of managing groups of windows.
 
Just realized that Stage Manager IS in this release.

To turn it on, click into the control center. You'll see an option to turn it on.

Within stage manager, you can either show or hide recent apps.

One thing I'm not able to do is drag files from the desktop into an app. Example: I wanted to drag/drop a photo from my desktop to the messages app to text to a friend. Doesn't allow for that.

Also, I have 2 Apple Studio displays. The left monitor shows the app stacks (not sure what to call them). The right monitor doesn't - they just disappear.

And for those of you on iPadOS with the M1, you can access the stage manager from the control center as well.

UI/UX is... odd.
 
MacOS 13 dev beta

Safari Version 16.0 (18614.1.14.1.15)

System Firmware Version: 8419.0.42.111.3 (M1 based Macs)

Darwin Kernel Version 22.0.0: Tue May 24 20:30:32 PDT 2022; root:xnu-8792.0.50.111.3~5/RELEASE_ARM64_T8103 arm64

Speedometer 2 - Safari = 346 for 24" M1 iMac
 
If you a long time Mac user then you will remember Minimize In Place and Piles. These were two rumored and also beta features years ago. That’s what Stage Manager kinda is.

I’m playing with it now and meh…I don’t like them take up space on the Left side of my screen. It also replaces Minimize to the Dock. Command+M now minimizes to Stage Manager. It’s just not clean, but it is a good way of managing groups of windows.
Would rather see window shading (collapse to titlebar) :(
 
Just realized that Stage Manager IS in this release.

To turn it on, click into the control center. You'll see an option to turn it on.

Within stage manager, you can either show or hide recent apps.

One thing I'm not able to do is drag files from the desktop into an app. Example: I wanted to drag/drop a photo from my desktop to the messages app to text to a friend. Doesn't allow for that.

Also, I have 2 Apple Studio displays. The left monitor shows the app stacks (not sure what to call them). The right monitor doesn't - they just disappear.

And for those of you on iPadOS with the M1, you can access the stage manager from the control center as well.

UI/UX is... odd.
What happens if you move dock to the left?
 
Just realized that Stage Manager IS in this release.

To turn it on, click into the control center. You'll see an option to turn it on.

Within stage manager, you can either show or hide recent apps.

One thing I'm not able to do is drag files from the desktop into an app. Example: I wanted to drag/drop a photo from my desktop to the messages app to text to a friend. Doesn't allow for that.

Also, I have 2 Apple Studio displays. The left monitor shows the app stacks (not sure what to call them). The right monitor doesn't - they just disappear.

And for those of you on iPadOS with the M1, you can access the stage manager from the control center as well.

UI/UX is... odd.
I don’t see the option to turn on Stage Manager in Control Center. Where is it? I must be overlooking something.
 
(Knocking on wood as I write this) I've trialed a LOT of MacOS (OSX) betas over the past 20 years and I have to say that Ventura is remarkably polished and bug free on my M1 Max MPB (so far).
 
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The "About Mac" page has also gotten a redesign in Ventura - more focus on the device, instead of the OS:

in macOS Monterey and earlier:

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in macOS Ventura:

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Installed it on intel macbook pro 2019 and restarts every 2 minutes. It is unusable.
Do you have Cisco AnyConnect installed? I had the same issue on MBPro 2019 15", and then tried to remove AnyConnect Socker Filter from safe mode, then I was able to log in with no issues.
 
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I'm really hyped for Stage Manager.

So much of my workflow is just having to be able to drag and drop files while working into other apps ala outlook, adobe acrobat, etc. However, I get some major screen clutter with all the other windows open from finder, safari, slack, music, etc. that it gets really chaotic. Looks like stage manager will clean up that clutter while still letting me work with other files. The drag and drop implementation they built looks like everything I could have hoped for had I known this was coming.

I hope they keep the focus on functional tools in MacOS. These are the things that actually make a difference for us traditional paper pushers.
I think a faster way already exists. Try it: set a hot corner to ‘show desktop’. Slam your cursor in that corner > (all the windows move out of the way) > grab the file you want from the desktop > drag the file back to the hot corner, and boom you’re dragging the file in your app.

On a trackpad it’s even easier: do the show desktop gesture (4 finger zoom), then drag your file from the desktop to any corner (no hot corners needed) and you’re doing what you want!
 
Didn't have that much that wasn't working so far for a first beta. Broke Logitech G Hub being able to start, but not CCC 6.1.2 worked for making SSD volume snapshot.
 
What happens if you move dock to the left?

Stage Manager icons appear on the right of it.

You can Auto Hide the Stage Manager icons if your app windows are big enough.

It’s very sloppy.

I think Stage Manager should have just been integrated into the Right side of the Dock instead of floating on the Desktop like this.
 
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