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Apple Seeds First Beta of macOS High Sierra to Developers

Mr. Retrofire said:
We do not know what we will get in fall 17'. Future DPs like DP2, DP3, ... will have a lot of improvements before the final versions appears on the Mac App Store.

Btw, every macOS app, including the Finder and macOS WindowServer (the software which displays windows, animations and so on) use Metal or Metal 2 in High Sierra.
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How's the speed?
 
Make the bootable usb installer:

Format an 8 GB (or preferably 16GB) USB3 drive which should be called Untitled and formatted as Mac OS Extended (Journaled). The installer should be called Install macOS 10.13 Beta.app and should be in your Applications folder.

Run this in terminal and wait about 20 minutes:

sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ 10.13\ Beta.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ macOS\ 10.13\ Beta.app --nointeraction
 
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tmoerel said:
Are you running on an SSD or a harddisk. APFS is faster on SSD but not as fast on harddisks!
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SSD - but I realised that Appstore was doing some updates in the back for XCode so I am assuming that is an issue.
I will see later on when it finishes.

UPDATE - it finished - everything is smooth.
 
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mithion said:
High Sierra seems pretty light on features. I figure the move to APFS was probably a big one and they probably poured a lot of resources to make the transition smooth and the final product robust. Still disappointed they haven't touched a couple of areas which are pain points like network drives and openGL support. Seems like they're banking on Metal a lot but I just don't see a whole lot of support for it in the 2-3 years where it's been available.
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No, they poured a lot of resources into iOS.
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redheeler said:
In the past Craig had joked about the name. Couldn't tell if he was serious or joking with this one at first.

But eventually everyone gets used to it. I thought "El Capitan" was ridiculous at first.
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They're all bad compared to the cats.
 
They missed a great opportunity to move away from the 10.xx numbering scheme (I mean, sure, it's still a throwback to the NeXTStep and SJ's days, and a lot of people will be sad and all, but we all know they never had any trouble in throwing old stuff away) and get major iOS, tvOS and macOS version numbers in sync. I mean, they don't even call it “10.13 High Sierra” anywhere visible on the main advertising page on Apple.com.

Come to think of it, there's nothing stopping them from actually calling the GM build “macOS 11 High Sierra” instead… Weren't the Sierra betas still called “OS X Sierra” instead of “macOS Sierra”? Also, when they eventually run out of California-based codenames, they can just ditch them and call it by the numeral like they did before Mac OS X, it will have much more clout and brand equity all with the iOS version being the same.
 
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Lozza013 said:
Does anyone know if Apple plan to support Time Machine Backups with APFS in High Sierra. I can't seem to find any answers.
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What do you mean ? Time machine backups on an external device regardless the file system (as long as recognizable by macOS) imho. So if you have an external USB disk formatted with apfs I expect it would work.
 
M2M said:
What do you mean ? Time machine backups on an external device regardless the file system (as long as recognizable by macOS) imho. So if you have an external USB disk formatted with apfs I expect it would work.
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Sorry I meant the Time Capsules (Should of been more specific), I have a 3TB Time Capsule and I don't want it to go to waste
 
For those who have upgraded to macOS 10.13, did you guys do a backup before upgrading because of the new file system changes or yolo?
 
I made a backup but unfortunately I cannot get external display on HDMI on MBP 2015 retina 13 inch.
Also the system seems slowed down just like on my iMac mid 2011 - with SSD.

Let's see how it will behave in the upcoming days but overall it's fine till now
 
ruchern said:
For those who have upgraded to macOS 10.13, did you guys do a backup before upgrading because of the new file system changes or yolo?
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I have CarbonCopyCloner doing backups hourly prior to High Sierra and then switched to Time Machine afterwards.
About to test a full restore from an external Time Machine backup and see how that goes.
 
Mr. Retrofire said:
We do not know what we will get in fall 17'. Future DPs like DP2, DP3, ... will have a lot of improvements before the final versions appears on the Mac App Store.

Btw, every macOS app, including the Finder and macOS WindowServer (the software which displays windows, animations and so on) use Metal or Metal 2 in High Sierra.
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Meaning we're likely to see some across-the-board graphics performance gains in day to day use? Say on a 2012 MBPr for example?
 
redheeler said:
In the past Craig had joked about the name. Couldn't tell if he was serious or joking with this one at first.

But eventually everyone gets used to it. I thought "El Capitan" was ridiculous at first.
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I still think El Capitan's a pretty stupid name. So is High Sierra. Mavericks, Yosemite, and Sierra were fine.
 
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