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Sucky.
 
• Emoji'a are different too. Gun is like a green water gun now or something lol.
They Nerfed the gun? Ha, that's kinda awesome. Gonna change the mood when someone sends it.
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sex appeal with an OS? Interesting. Personally I like it a lot. It is much better than iOS 7-9 which looked like the rainbow puked.
Yeah, I generally prefer sex appeal applied to, humans, rather than operating systems.
 
This had sex appeal?

iOS 6's Game Center, while looking like it was designed by people who had never played a videogame, still at least conveyed the sense of 'gaming'. iOS 7 Game Center's floating bubbles are meaningless and also look bad. But come on, it's Game Center, it's been a disaster since day one.

When I said "sex appeal" I was thinking more of Aqua-era OS X. Though yeah, I'd say pre-7.0 iOS certainly looked more inviting than what we have now. Part of this is the lack of a thought-out design. I don't like Material Design, but at least Google's design team created a cohesive, consistent design aesthetic that exudes a particular personality through its UI and animations. Apple's design process feels more reactive than visionary now.
 
Does anyone else think NightShift doesn't need that huge massive button on the controls panel, where space is already at a premium? They could make that button a quarter the size and add actual useful toggles, like cellular data on/off.
FWIW, this works in iOS 9... (There are similar toggles for a number of other settings too).
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[doublepost=1470088775][/doublepost]Am I the only one looking at the two sets of 4 emoji and thinking... "these aren't the same characters - you're showing a total of 5 different Unicode codepoints, and the order is switched around".
 
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They could've changed the color a bit to not be so harsh though.
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Your point?
Is it different in iOS 10 than what it has been? Typically it changes shade a bit as the conversation scrolls.
 
What are you talking about? iOS 10 doesn't release until the fall and is currently in beta testing. Terrible trolling is terrible

Do you honestly think the final release will be that different? He wasn't trolling iOs is underwhelming now and often buggy.[/QUOTE]
The final release is often significantly more stable than the betas. No, they're not going to put in any more functionality, but within existing functionalities, they do change things in the beta cycle. Look at the Notification Center for example.
 
Is it different in iOS 10 than what it has been? Typically it changes shade a bit as the conversation scrolls.
The original commenter in that line of conversation was bemoaning the fact that Apple hadn't changed the color already. Honestly, near-neon green is pretty harsh tbh. So is near-neon blue for iMessage but much less so
 
The original commenter in that line of conversation was bemoaning the fact that Apple hadn't changed the color already. Honestly, near-neon green is pretty harsh tbh. So is near-neon blue for iMessage but much less so
Part of what I mentioned is that the color adjusts as you move through a conversation, which is why it looks brighter for newer messages and duller for older ones as you scroll through. I guess the brightness could be adjusted a bit for the new messages to not be as vibrant, although it's hard to say by how much as far as still having a noticeable range as the conversation scrolls.
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Probably, I was just responding to GIZBUG saying that the PB never comes out at the same time as the DB. Apparently, sometimes it does. ;)

...and Yes! MR typing has been fixed. :D
It has happened (rarely), like I think with the first public beta for iOS 10, but what you used as proof that it does seems to be incorrect as it appears to be a fake.
 
Force touch shortcuts on Safari seem to be removed. Is anyone else seeing this? I use this all the time for opening new tabs. Guessing it's just a bug and wasn't purposely removed.
 
Fake screenshot then? As a PB update isn't showing.
It has happened (rarely), like I think with the first public beta for iOS 10, but what you used as proof that it does seems to be incorrect as it appears to be a fake.

I don't know what to tell you guys, but that is a real (unedited) screenshot from my 6S just before I updated. I know it's wierd, but I have been getting the iOS 10 PBs at the same time as the devs have been getting the DBs, since the first DB. Don't ask me why they are numbered differently than the 'public' PBs, but I have gotten 4 PBs so far.
 
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I did not notice a update to download, this is my software version 10.0 (14A5309d), any ideas on why I didn't get the update ? I did do a power off then turned back on, but no ota showing up for me.

I have posted a similar question in a different conversation, but this thread seemed more like the right one to ask it in.

I re downloaded my profile then it rebooted, them my ios beta 4 download showed up. So i figured it out myself.
 
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I don't know what to tell you guys, but that is a real (unedited) screenshot from my 6S just before I updated. I know it's wierd, but I have been getting the iOS 10 PBs at the same time as the devs have been getting the DBs, since the first DB. Don't ask me why they are numbered differently than the 'public' PBs, but I have gotten 4 PBs so far.
Doesn't seem like those would be public betas.
 
Wow, was that ever a thin soup article. Starts out with WA and ends with a sentence about iMessage "leaves a lot of data" but no details (I thought iMessage data at rest in iOS is encrypted- smith the article said WA messages are not.)
Jonathan Zdziarski [www.zdziarski.com/blog/] had reported on the Messages issue about a year ago or so. Press just really didn't pick it up then. And considering that I filed the bug reports that underlaid the issue back on iOS 5.something… well, that should give you some idea where Apple is on SecDev.
Basically, the Messages DB doesn't vacuum correctly. I don't know WHY, I don't have the code. All I knew is I had a client who could search for words in "deleted" messages and see those messages in search results. Think sexting. Which meant the messages were still in the Messages DB, and still being indexed, even if Messages․app wasn't displaying them. It wasn't until after the iOS 5 jailbreak shipped that I was able to confirm it and push Apple more. By that time, the user had gone to iOS 6 because Apple Support told them it fixed the issue (and I lost the ability to jailbreak to check). Only iOS 6 didn't fix the issue, it just seemed to hide it for a bit (I'm guessing the indexes got wiped, took a while to re-index). What Zdziarski's research then revealed was a) Apple wasn't encrypting the Messages.db on the phone and that you could grab the Messages db out of an iTunes backup same as it was on the phone. So, by iOS 7 and before any jailbreaks I was able to file more bugs because the lack of vacuuming wasn't only an information leak (data that the user wanted deleted was not being deleted), it also had a side-effect of ballooning the Messages DB over a prolonged period of time (say for a user who had never Restored to Factory, and kept updating from iOS 3 to iOS 7) which then negatively impacted iCloud backup storage or even ability (the Messages DB cannot be manually vacuumed or reset from iOS, so if the bug caused old messages and thought-deleted conversation attachments to build up, which then are to be backed up, causing iCloud Backups to fail because the whole mess of unwanted data is greater than 5GB).
Zdziarski seemed to insinuate that it was rather likely that Apple wasn't fixing the issue because it benefitted Law Enforcement. Doesn't make much sense otherwise. In fact, in newer versions of the Messages DB, Apple changed how Deleted Messages are handled, moving them to an entirely different Table in the database, likely so they aren't indexed (triggering my first bug report). Very fishy.

That's the CliffsNotes.

(Oh, and I should note: this is still going on, although I haven't tested under iOS10, and includes deleted pictures. You'd be astounded what sometimes can be found in an unencrypted iTunes backup that users SWEAR they had deleted, and Messages․app shows--or rather doesn't, by not *showing* the messages--they are honest.)
((And having now just double-checked, my initial bug reports were closed with the "Engineering is aware of the issue and is tracking" dodge. Again, FISHY.))
 
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Updating a spare iPad to iOS 10 Beta.. is it normal for it to update to 2, then 3, then 4? I feel like it's going to be all day.
 
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