if anyone is interested, I was able to delete the Backups.backupsdb folder by mounting Macintosh HD partition as read-write (in Terminal.app "sudo mount -uw /" and "killall Finder"). After a reboot the installation started no problem
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Apple Seeds Fourth Beta of macOS Catalina to Developers
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Woke up in the morning and it worked! Wooo!
So the answer is to leave the stuck progress bar even if it seems like its never going to move, because it IS going to move. Even if it takes 5+ hours. Just leave it.
So the answer is to leave the stuck progress bar even if it seems like its never going to move, because it IS going to move. Even if it takes 5+ hours. Just leave it.
Last beta the password for my admin account just wasn't accepted anymore.... Tried everything, terminal commands, iCloud password recovery, TimeMachine... nothing was working, I just received weird Error messages from Catalina.
Ended up formatting and using the internet recovery, and using Time Machine afterwards.
Ended up formatting and using the internet recovery, and using Time Machine afterwards.
I woke up and it’s done.
Wooohoooo!!!
No idea what took so long.
Good luck everyone.
[doublepost=1563352894][/doublepost]Guys while we are at it, does automatic wallpaper for Catalina work for you? I see the Island always in Dark even tho it’s set to Automatic.
Mojave dynamic (both desert and sky) change throughout the day.
Wooohoooo!!!
No idea what took so long.
Good luck everyone.
[doublepost=1563352894][/doublepost]Guys while we are at it, does automatic wallpaper for Catalina work for you? I see the Island always in Dark even tho it’s set to Automatic.
Mojave dynamic (both desert and sky) change throughout the day.
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The PB installation was a fuss but this build is working well. Finder is a lot better.
Nope and it hasn’t worked since the beginning of the Catalina beta, the dynamic wallpaper is coming later as far as I know
Artwork even more screwed up now in both Music and TV app , nothing is showing at all where as I had some in previous beta release.
It was showing in the info tab for purchased films and even that has stopped working now.
It was showing in the info tab for purchased films and even that has stopped working now.
Well it was at least 2 hours on less than a minute remaining, but this am I woke up to a dark screen, and voila, its beta 2!
Has anyone had it succeed with them rebooting the machine half way through. After about an hour (the first time) I reset the machine thinking it had locked up. I'm up to 3 hours now on about 25% so am hoping that the reboot didnt stuff it.
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Totally agree. Both catalina and ios 13 are a lot worse that previous primary betas. Not sure if they had pressure to get it out or something but it definitely could have gone through some more internal testing before this.
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Totally agree. Both catalina and ios 13 are a lot worse that previous primary betas. Not sure if they had pressure to get it out or something but it definitely could have gone through some more internal testing before this.
Aaargh - I have not-on-bleeding-edge angst.
I typically upgrade to the latest dev beta (phone and laptop) as soon as it comes out. I'm not a registered developer - I'm not any kind of official developer - but I like to think I know enough (and have enough backups) to recover from any issue. However ...
I need my laptop for something important tomorrow, and this latest beta update seems flaky. I'll wait until tomorrow night. There's no corresponding iOS beta either, which is odd.
I typically upgrade to the latest dev beta (phone and laptop) as soon as it comes out. I'm not a registered developer - I'm not any kind of official developer - but I like to think I know enough (and have enough backups) to recover from any issue. However ...
I need my laptop for something important tomorrow, and this latest beta update seems flaky. I'll wait until tomorrow night. There's no corresponding iOS beta either, which is odd.
My iCloud Drive seems to work fine now.
Make sure to immediately tick "Optimize storage on this Mac" after turning on iCloud Drive so it won't hickup, because iCloud Drive is indeed still broken, however, it works as long as you don't give it too much work load at once. Downloading a file or a folder at a time does the trick.
At least, it doesn't move my files randomly around anymore.
The problem that persists however, is that the "app library" of Readdle Scanner Pro (if you happen to use that) is displayed as "Documents" in iCloud Drive. Whereas the actual macOS "Documents" folder is named "Documents 2", but works just fine. macOS doesn't mess with the wrong Documents folder anymore, despite the weird and wrong naming scheme.
When looking at my iCloud Drive in Mojave, it does show Scanner Pro's folder as "Documents", however, Mojave keeps the name of the macOS "Documents" folder as "Documents" too.
I think it's not wise of Readdle to come up with such a confusing name for their app's files. And on Apple's behalf: They need to fix and polish Catalina's iCloud Drive much more.
I am glad though it's sort of usable now though.
Folder after folder, I downloaded all my iCloud Drive contents back to my 3TB Fusion Drive iMac.
Make sure to immediately tick "Optimize storage on this Mac" after turning on iCloud Drive so it won't hickup, because iCloud Drive is indeed still broken, however, it works as long as you don't give it too much work load at once. Downloading a file or a folder at a time does the trick.
At least, it doesn't move my files randomly around anymore.
The problem that persists however, is that the "app library" of Readdle Scanner Pro (if you happen to use that) is displayed as "Documents" in iCloud Drive. Whereas the actual macOS "Documents" folder is named "Documents 2", but works just fine. macOS doesn't mess with the wrong Documents folder anymore, despite the weird and wrong naming scheme.
When looking at my iCloud Drive in Mojave, it does show Scanner Pro's folder as "Documents", however, Mojave keeps the name of the macOS "Documents" folder as "Documents" too.
I think it's not wise of Readdle to come up with such a confusing name for their app's files. And on Apple's behalf: They need to fix and polish Catalina's iCloud Drive much more.
I am glad though it's sort of usable now though.
Folder after folder, I downloaded all my iCloud Drive contents back to my 3TB Fusion Drive iMac.
Yup, I rebooted mine twice when I thought it had frozen, second time zapped the PRAM.. left it overnight (stuck at 26%) and it’s up and running fine now.
I updated all 3 of mine to the beta and they just worked as normal and no longer then usual so its odd some people having issues. So far nothing new and artwork still not displaying on music and tv
Thanks for that. Feeling a little less worried now.
It's actually moved up now to 75% saying 13 minutes remaining (at about +4hrs since I started).
Hopefully gives some confidence too to anyone else in this position.
Did you do an upgrade from the previous beta or was this a new install? Still on Mojave but was thinking of moving to this beta.
Thinking it would be best to wait one more beta. Still sounds rough on the edges. I think with the last two major updates being less on new features we kinda of got used to early betas being stable. 
After letting the update run overnight, I have a working MacBook Pro again. Whew!
I had the same problem trying to free up space. It seemed that iCloud was continuously filling up my drive and being on a MacBook pro the drive space was pretty limited.
I found that disabling iCloud totally under system settings and then rebooting a couple of times first stopped the issue for me.
I found that disabling iCloud totally under system settings and then rebooting a couple of times first stopped the issue for me.