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Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.5.2 and Java SE 6 Preview 8 for Leopard

i've had an occasional crash on leopard, nothing serious.

mostly yahoo messenger crashes when i've signed out/in again then try to do anything, but i blame Yahoo more than Apple for this.

10.5 was bad, especially for wifi, very flakey. 10.5.1 fixed that and it's running peachy now on x1 Macbook Pro (SR), x1 Powerbook G4 1.5, x1 Macbook (SR) and x1 Dual G5 1.8ghz
 
OrleansMac said:
Not at all. Just a lot of lock-up's and freezes since switching to Leopard on both my iMac and MBP. Neither of which have much of anything outside a few iTunes songs and word documents.

I am happy with Leopard but the problems have increased 10x since switching to it. But, that is expected having gotten it when it first came out (well, at least I think so) so it is nothing that is really blowing my mind.
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I don't get it tho. The hardware should just be as stable as mine and if you did a clean install like I did from the minute i got my MBP (ordered a week before leopard launch) and its fine.

*shrug* Still don't totally believe its 100% apples fault when most people are ok
 
Concorde Rules said:
I don't get it tho. The hardware should just be as stable as mine and if you did a clean install like I did from the minute i got my MBP (ordered a week before leopard launch) and its fine.

*shrug* Still don't totally believe its 100% apples fault when most people are ok
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If it were me, I would agree.

But obvious many others are having the same problems. High majority? No...but a big enough amount that something may be buggy.
 
al256 said:
Safari crashes so much more in 10.5.1... I hate it.
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I use Safari exclusively (and I use it a lot). I haven't had it crash on me. And, that's using it probably at least 8 hours a day, every day since Leopard came out (and before that, I used the previous version of Safari to the same extent).
 
flyinmac said:
64-bit capable processor a requirement for Java?

Well, there goes Java for the CoreDuos and G4's. Goodbye iMac and Mac Mini CoreDuos (and of course the MacBook and MacBook Pros). Now you'll need a Core2Duo or better.

Man, that was short. Who'd have thought it would be Java that would kill-off the 32-BIT systems?
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To make anything useful (ever tried Aperture on 128MB vram?) you need 256MB or more vram aswell so goodbye more or less all macs. Apple suck.

Atleast with a PC you _CAN_ get what you want.

AidenShaw said:
Start saving your euros for a 64-bit machine, it's only a matter of time before 32-bit is on the dust heap.

(Same advice applies to Windows users, by the way....)
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Same advice for ALL computers.

Nothing wrong with a 32 bit machine if you can live with less than 4GB of ram. I wouldn't have bought a core machine thought, and I didn't either.
 
Come on apple. Release the stinkin update already. Quit blaming adobe for the JPEG exif crashes in mail and quicklook/finder. Just fix the problem and release an update.

There should be an option to test the packs like developers can. Like check a beta test option in system prefs. By the time it gets to devs it is pretty polished.
 
psychofreak said:
I said My Leopard, meaning that I'm not personally desperate for 10.5.2, I'm by no means suggesting that there are no bugs at all...
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I'm going to have to agree with Psycofreak on this one.. My version of Leopard really isn't that buggy at all. But one of my good friends already downgraded to Tiger because he was so disgusted with his Leopard. Its really stinks that so many people are having issues with it.
 
Domofloge said:
I'm going to have to agree with Psycofreak on this one.. My version of Leopard really isn't that buggy at all. But one of my good friends already downgraded to Tiger because he was so disgusted with his Leopard. Its really stinks that so many people are having issues with it.
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Agreed. Several friends of mine have Leopard and have yet to see a single problem with it. I am amazed when I visit them to hear them talk about no freezing issues, etc....their systems range from iMac's to MBP's as well (I have both)

Then again, a good amount of family/friends of mine have gotten Leopard and really are shocked with the amount of problems we have come across....whether it is slow load-up times for programs such as System Preferences, freezes on Safari, and iTunes bouncing and just not ever starting up.

Odd but coming on here and seeing so many complain about similar problems does make me feel better that others are seeing the same thing thus so is Apple.

Overall, still very happy I bought it
 
ckurowic said:
So what. 32 bit has been obsolete for years! My G5 is from 2003! Save some cash, go get a G5 or a new Core 2 Duo.
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If 32 bit has been obsolete for years why did apple release computers with 32 bit hmmm...... I know what you'll say the laptops were g4 so they were only 32 bit anyway while this is true the imac had a g5 that they replaced with a core duo, which means apple deliberately BACKTRACKED. I own a cd macbook and if it stops being supported in like a year I'll be pissed :mad: and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
 
Domofloge said:
I'm going to have to agree with Psycofreak on this one.. My version of Leopard really isn't that buggy at all. But one of my good friends already downgraded to Tiger because he was so disgusted with his Leopard. Its really stinks that so many people are having issues with it.
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I have 4 Macs, Macbook Pro, Intel Imac, G4 Imac, Powerbook g4 all of which were upgraded to Leopard from Tiger. I don't have any problems with any of them - well, at least since the keyboard freeze was fixed for the macbook. I did the archive install route. I wonder if a lot of the problems folks are having stems from doing the simple upgrade instead of the archive/install route?
 
chris200x9 said:
If 32 bit has been obsolete for years why did apple release computers with 32 bit hmmm...... I know what you'll say the laptops were g4 so they were only 32 bit anyway while this is true the imac had a g5 that they replaced with a core duo, which means apple deliberately BACKTRACKED. I own a cd macbook and if it stops being supported in like a year I'll be pissed :mad: and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Stop panicking. Honestly, Apple won't withdraw support. There is no conspiracy.

32 bit isn't obsolete either. Can you tell me what benefits 64 bit has given you? Support for addressing more memory? Like most people need more than 4GB....

btw. my three Leopard installs so far are wipe and start again installs. There is definitely flakiness in 10.5.1, especially with Mail.app. However Leopard is very usable though and I wouldn't even consider a downgrade at this stage.
 
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I know, I'm not panicking I was just trying to point out that ckurowic's statement was not accurate and to be accurate it would mean a big conspiracy, for lack of a better word, that would hurt actually apple.
 
chris200x9 said:
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I know, I'm not panicking I was just trying to point out that ckurowic's statement was not accurate and to be accurate it would mean a big conspiracy, for lack of a better word, that would hurt actually apple.
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Yes, apologies, my post was mis-directed to you not ckurowic.

As for 10.5.2 I'm expecting that soon.
 
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