This is all highly amusing; being on the receiving end of some Mac-head's ire because I dare to question the Emperor's new clothes.
New clothes? He's had those jeans on for the past twenty years
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Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) 9A559
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New clothes? He's had those jeans on for the past twenty years
I hope Apple will fix the issue unable to assign names to Spaces. Now it's only using numbers. I would love to assign a name to it.
Let's hope build 559 will be more stable then 527. That let application crash every few hours. VLC, Safari, iCal, Firefox or Quicktime. All weren't safe.
Let's hope build 559 will be more stable then 527. That let application crash every few hours. VLC, Safari, iCal, Firefox or Quicktime. All weren't safe.
Transparency has been in OSX for a while now so I don't see what you're complaining about. It has lessened down quite a bit now and I think it perfectly corroborates with the overall desktop environment. Rather than making the menubar or dock distractive, I have personally found it rather less distractive and at the same time quite good looking. In fact, weren't people complaining how Apple didn't make use of CoreAnimation throughout the OS? I suppose they were expecting some revolutionary features to how we use the computer. However, we should all know by now that OSX is evolutionary and from someone who lived in the 2000 traveled to the future of 2008...then they would find the changes pretty drastic. We tend to expect too much but again, I don't know much about you.
Reflections is indeed eye-candy but I hardly think this constitutes as a cheap toy. The menubar is made to be less distractive because you get to work in a better environment and the dock takes less space. Like others said though, the GUI is more consistent this time around so how exactly is this not professional? Have not professional designers been complaining about this but now people suddenly to complain that it looks "cheap"? Apple has something that Microsoft doesn't have and that is style... Their good design attributes have been praised by mac users from abroad and it's not just any design. The use of reflections while unnecessary, makes the OS standout to something like Vista. In fact, Apple has taken out the glossy buttons and made the dock less transparent for obvious reasons. Besides, the new menubar is only semi-transparent which is hardly cheap which I'll explain in a bit.
What OS are you looking at? The star wars like space-theme is incredibly and unleashes at least my imagination. Sci-fi stuff after all is something that goes beyond the norm. All of this seems to encourage creativity with it's futuristic look rather than the overbloated glossiness on Vista. When people go on their computer, they mostly want to work with it so the good-looking Aqua wares off rather quickly. The importance, as any designer would probably agree, is whether the UI can be powerful yet out of the way? Is it able to fit into one's life-style? If we take a look at history, the GUI was a break-through innovation that simplified how we work with our computers. It was powerful, simple and out of the way enough to get to work. People want simplicity and power so everything else is secondary. It is is very easy for one to add as many eye-candy with all their resources but adding the ones that actually benefit in productivity is rather difficult.
Apple has done a lot for the UI with expose, the dock, mouse, icons etc. You'll notice that these features are not simply "WOW" that can easily wear off but something that's simple, out of the way and while increasing productivity. Then we find that we can't live without these features. Apple is doing exactly this by going beyond a solution to another step in advancing toward an ultimate harmony between user, functionality and productivity. Time will eventually tell us if Apple is heading in the right direction...
The only thing that you could probably say is some unecessary feature like the reflections. True but what's wrong with having something cool here and there? I mean seriously? Does everything have to be professional? Can't we have a little bit of fun here and there?
Heh, you obviously don't know me.
Hehe this is true which is why I said "perhaps" along with a question mark. lol
You forget to mention the crap that people on macrumors have also mentioned. Just look at the reaction to the iPod. That was hilarious how mac fans actually went berserk and called it stuff like iPoop. Then the hype builds up and the same is the case for Leopard. A lot of people were complaining about the transparent menubar. It's an everyday process. First it gets criticized like crazy...then resistance comes....and finally people start to accept it. I forgot the exact quote but this is basically how things work.
But as I said though, you look at it from a what it seems perspective rather than what it is perspective. You'll right in some regard but I can't see why you actually think Tiger is any less more candy looking.
scrollbars
i absolutely agree about the scrollbars.
apple has already changed most of the OS to conform to the itunes/ilife 08 look and now the old aqua scrollbars look definitely out of place. i personally love the new scrollbars in itunes and i'm patiently waiting for them to be added into leopard. i will be dissapointed if they're not added in and im getting worried that they're not going to be.
i absolutely agree about the scrollbars.
apple has already changed most of the OS to conform to the itunes/ilife 08 look and now the old aqua scrollbars look definitely out of place. i personally love the new scrollbars in itunes and i'm patiently waiting for them to be added into leopard. i will be dissapointed if they're not added in and im getting worried that they're not going to be.
Dollars to doughnuts that GM is made before Sept 28th.
Mark my words...
....unless I'm wrong. Then just ignore me
DO'H!
Mark my words...
....unless I'm wrong. Then just ignore me
DO'H!
Question about Finder in Leopard
Just visited the apple site to watch some of the Leopard videos and was very impressed - I'm a current Windows user waiting for Leopard to drop so that I can make the switch.
One question came up, are Finder and Spotlight able to see/use keywords in the metadata of photos (JPGs, raw files)?
Thanks,
E
Just visited the apple site to watch some of the Leopard videos and was very impressed - I'm a current Windows user waiting for Leopard to drop so that I can make the switch.
One question came up, are Finder and Spotlight able to see/use keywords in the metadata of photos (JPGs, raw files)?
Thanks,
E
Yes, Spotlight indexes keywords in jpg files.
I just opened a jpg file, added the keyword "golly" and saved it. Then went immediately to Spotlight, typed golly, and picture came up.
Don't know about RAW.
it happens whenever they decide that it is stable enough to release there is not a set number of builds.
Yah and that should worry anyone interested in a stable, _generally_ bug free, OS. Rushing an OS WILL, not may but WILL , lead to "issues".
Heck even if I buy it when its released on day one I'm probably going to wait a couple months to install with with 10.5.1 Which I'm willing to bet will ship within the month. OS releases that aren't open to the public for beta testing never survive contact with the real world without some major issue. Just wait.
I know I'm a broke record but I still am a proponent of release candidates for Apple enthusiasts. We could stress test the crap out of Leopard, and I don't know about you guys but I'd drop $20 for the chance. (Ballpark that MS charges for hard media.)
Then all Apple would need to do is provide a temporary nice in OS tool to send feedback, assign a few dozen people to wade through and sort reports via priority and class, and BAM. Instant benchmarking on a larger set of hardware and configurations.
But will we ever get this? No. Because Apple has to be elitist about their OS. Show no weakness to the masses. As if we don't get reports about each seed that they put out already.
Maybe they are concerned about people thinking this is software ready for prime time.....easy fix. Put a big [bleeping] banner in big bold letters. THIS IS PRERELEASE SOFTWARE. IT MAY SCREW UP YOUR SYSTEM, CAUSE DATA LOSS, AND GENERALLY DO BAD THINGS TO YOUR PRODUCTIVITY. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.
And require the person to type out AGREE to continue the install.
But hey. What do I know other then pirating would drop to virtually zero and people wouldn't be so frenzied over 10.5 But maybe that is the goal all along? Its all about the buzz and marketing.
10.4.0 was build 8A428. So, 428 builds before it went gold master. As was said before, it is irrelevant. It takes as many builds as necessary.
Weird. I have plenty of issues with XP SP2.
Applications not responding every 30 minutes
Registry rot
USB devices not being recognised
A six year old operating system is more stable than a beta, unreleased product.
Fascinating opinion...
Funny, I was thinking the same thing this morning.
Tiger needed to get to 10.4.3 to be decent.
Panther needed 10.3.1, maybe 10.3.2 to be decent.
But I jumped in right away on both, and will do the same for Leopard. I may wait a month of so on the business front though...we'll see how it goes...
Apple has traditionally always released OS X releases on Friday. This is definitely a possibility, but it seems really early. ><
Releasing 10.5 on 10.5, possible at 10:05 (AM/PM), while it would be poetic, the more I read about the life cycle of developer builds and whatnot, the more I'm thinking that just ain't gonna happen.
Leopard will make it out in October, but look to the later part of October for the actual release.
AMEN! this is what I've been saying for a few days now... People look at Vista and are making the wrong sort of comparisons. Leopard is not to Tiger as Vista is to XP - People expect XI - but we are seeing the evolution of X.
The beauty of Apple hard / software is that it blends into our normal lives - they become a natural extension of the way we work, and we forget about them - and simply go about using them in a productive way that helps us without thinking about them...