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Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) Build 9A500n

Juan Moro said:
I'd LOVE to be able to set a screensaver as a wallpaper... If some third party app can do it, why don't the implement it within the OS? It's a real eye-catcher!
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You can. And without a third-party utility.
Run the following code in terminal:
Code: 
/System/Library/Frameworks/ScreenSaver.framework/Resources/ScreenSaverEngine.app/Contents/MacOS/ScreenSaverEngine -background
It sets your current selected screensaver (in System Preferences) as your background. Then just save the Terminal session and add it to your dock - and you have instant Screensaver-to-background @ your fingertips!
 
pengu said:
because it can slow a low-spec machine down incredibly. and its too gimmicky for apple.
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But, if Vista has moving desktops in their more expensive vista ultimate then apple including it into their all in one upgrade would be a great selling point.

Again with Apple and Microsoft copying each other, for each others fan base.
 
With the right backgrounds, the new menu bar looks really nice. I used this greenish (pastel green) pattern that looked really sweet with it. At first I was a little iffy on it (and the new dock). However, it VERY quickly grew on me and I love it. For those that hate it, I have high confidence in the community that someone will create a tiger style dock and menu bar shortly after release.

Leopard has quite a number of bugs, but I am sure Apple will have it fixed up before release.

I really can't wait for it to be released :D
 
I heard the 499 could not install on the new iMacs so they won't get much testing of 500n by iMac users since you need to get it through Software Update. C'mon Apple do you want it tested or not.
 
Sprine said:
You can. And without a third-party utility.
Run the following code in terminal:
Code: 
/System/Library/Frameworks/ScreenSaver.framework/Resources/ScreenSaverEngine.app/Contents/MacOS/ScreenSaverEngine -background
It sets your current selected screensaver (in System Preferences) as your background. Then just save the Terminal session and add it to your dock - and you have instant Screensaver-to-background @ your fingertips!
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Oh, thanks! It must be like movingdesktop, right? THe thing I dislike is when doing exposé, it shows the wallpaper instead...
 
/dev/toaster said:
With the right backgrounds, the new menu bar looks really nice. I used this greenish (pastel green) pattern that looked really sweet with it. At first I was a little iffy on it (and the new dock). However, it VERY quickly grew on me and I love it. For those that hate it, I have high confidence in the community that someone will create a tiger style dock and menu bar shortly after release.
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I must echo what you said. When Steve first demoed the new menu bar I absolutely despised it. It just looked like showing off the "candy" of the GUI with no functionality in mind.

However, it grew on me almost instantly after using it. Of course, certain backgrounds look better ... more notably the ones that are actual photographs and not abstract backgrounds/colours. The screenshots really don't do it justice to when you are actually sitting there in front of it using it on a day to day basis.

I know that once us developers start releasing the "Leopard only" applications everyone will start to fully appreciate the power of this new version even though it seems to not have as many "cool new" user-centric features as some may have hoped.
 
Juan Moro said:
Oh, thanks! It must be like movingdesktop, right? THe thing I dislike is when doing exposé, it shows the wallpaper instead...
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Nope...this actually displays the screensaver even with Exposé. Thought I haven't tried MovingDesktop - so can't talk about that.

Greetz.
 
The see through menu bar might look snazy but it is confusing for users because it looks like a disabled GUI control. Any anyway who wants to imitate Vista when it is becoming clearer day by day that it is not being embraced by XP users.
 
FreeState said:
Im fairly certain XP users have other reasons than transparency on some windows for not upgrading to Vista.
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I did not say it was the reason. I think they should consciously try to differentiate themselves from (the increasingly despised) Vista.
 
lead time?

What is the lead time to get this release to manufacturing?

My guess would be that they'd want to have the final release no later than very early October to get enough media produced and then shipped to all the points of sale.

If Apple works like most software shops, they'll want to do a code freeze sometime prior to shipping, to give time for final QA. Basically, you want to make sure that someone didn't commit code at the last minute that breaks everything.

So I suspect that we'll see development all but wrapping up on this release pretty shortly. I haven't used the beta releases. If there are minor, trivial bugs I think everything is on track. However if there are glitches that require a fair amount of rewrite, I can see things getting delayed.
 
Given the most widely discussed feature appears to be the opacity of the menubar, I'm getting the sense that Leopard may not be the paradigm shift in OSs that it was initially promised to be.
 
ClaphamChris said:
Given the most widely discussed feature appears to be the opacity of the menubar, I'm getting the sense that Leopard may not be the paradigm shift in OSs that it was initially promised to be.
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Its not.

Some of the apps that come out with it though.... maybe. ;)
 
Sprine said:
Nope...this actually displays the screensaver even with Exposé. Thought I haven't tried MovingDesktop - so can't talk about that.

Greetz.
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Mmmh.. no it doesn't. At least not on my Mac. I'm running a last gen MacBook Pro with OS 10.4.10.
Anyway, my Mac also thinks Safari 3.0 is PowerPC... as did my MacBook.
 
Anyone remember hearing a while back at WWDC that Apple will give a final look of Leopard as it nears release? Well this is kinda obvious, as their site always changes to reflect the arrival a new OS. I'm looking forward to seeing Leopard's complete list beyond the "big ten" that have already been previewed. I wonder when they'll announce the release date...
 
More from InsanelyMac forum:

Improvements I found in 9A500n:
- Core Image is finally hardware accelerated again
- Removed bug when changing default app to open a file type
- Fixed up Photo Booth's UI
- Opening a stack doesn't lock the dock anymore. The dock will continue to magnify once a stack is open.
 
Looks better with different desktops.


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Hmm. Maybe they'll implement a smart menu bar that uses the black lettering with white borders to make it viewable on any background - light or dark. Or.... make text that takes the most opposing contrast of the background behind it?
 
i don't know

the more i come to terms of what exactly Leopard means the more excited i get. I think it is going to blow people's minds once it is installed. The underlying architecture is what the developers are excited about and the moves Apple has been making lately makes me seriously doubt this is a non-event OS release. I think we are going to be surprised, pleasantly. :)
 
transparent menubar -- annoying

aspro said:
Man, I wish it could come out sooner and I hope the menubar transparency is controlled by a toggle somewhere in the preferences. Though, maybe it'll grow on me.
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I would imagine the transparent menubar to be nothing short of annoying. It's pointless. All you can see behind it is the desktop picture. You can't put anything behind it.... I like the solid menu..
 
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