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From the AI comments by a user of the new version making it faster has added sufficient bugs to make the guy recommend people use the older version.

Looks like a a lot of bugs left to work on right now - no time to think about going Gold for a while.

Personally I'll wait, quite happy with what I have (I'm a switcher so even 10.2 was nice) and will upgrade when the initial excitement over Leopard's release dies down.
 
From what i've read over at ThinkSecret earlier, while it's faster, it's less stable, with more bugs.

:rolleyes:


Looking good :eek:

Thats why its called a "beta" version! ;) I wish they'd go back to the Tiger menu bar. The menu bar in Leopard is very hard to see with most desktop pictures. I shouldn't be limited to what desktop pics I can choose just because of the menu bar is completely transparent.
 
So is that ugly ****ing menubar and dock gone yet?

ahh.... hmmm if you don't like the menu bar or the dock.... maybe you should try vista... the dock and menu bar are kinda important on OS X. I don't see them going away any time soon...
 
ahh.... hmmm if you don't like the menu bar or the dock.... maybe you should try vista...

Vista is actually one GORGEOUS operating system, personally I think Apple should maybe get some inspiration from Vista.
 
Calling Leopard testers: changes to Address Book?...

I'm specially interested in any changes to the Address Book...

Does the IM field have any increase in the number of options (ICQ, Jabber, etc)? Is Skype in there now? Grrrrr!

Any other changes?

Funny, I'm less concerned with look - I want usability and productivity tools!

Cheers Daniel
 
I'm specially interested in any changes to the Address Book...
It is under NDA so I hope no one answers you ... I like having access to seeds for development and the more folks that break NDA the later and later we will could get seed access in the future.
 
Luke, I have the 9A466 Version, I have tried software update but it tells me that I have the latest version, how do I update it to 9A499?
Thanks in advance

If you are an Apple developer with seed access you can download it from ADC.
 
I'm specially interested in any changes to the Address Book...

Does the IM field have any increase in the number of options (ICQ, Jabber, etc)? Is Skype in there now? Grrrrr!

Any other changes?

Funny, I'm less concerned with look - I want usability and productivity tools!

Cheers Daniel

Daniel,

same here... Adress book just misses every aspect of being an Apple app. See my comment on http://guides.macrumors.com/OS-X_Wish_List (and your list ;):)
 
menu bar works fine

I haven't had any problems seeing the menu bar in leopard. I've put a full black desktop up, and I could easily see the menu bar. It turns it a light gray so you can see words just fine. As for the screen sharing thing, there is still the button on the bottom of the buddy list in iChat, that when you mouse over the tooltip reads "Start Screen Sharing". I don't know anybody else using Leopard, so it doesn't do anything when I click the button right now.
 
I can't wait any longer! I hope it is going to be wiorth the wait, does anyone think that there are going to be any features that have not been shown?

Yes, they quoted over 300 new features of which we saw something like 10. However the majority are probably not things that you can see but things that happend under the hood and new system calls that are exposed to developers.
 
essentially two months to go - should not be too long now until it goes Gold Master - wonder if the recent iLife rumor means that the two are coming together.

I think yes. Otherwise, if iLife comes out instead at Macworld, Apple would be shipping Macs with Leopard and an almost two-year old iLife in October, November and December and then shipping Macs with a brand new iLife starting in January. Just doesn't make much sense.

New OS and New iLife in early October.
 
ahh.... hmmm if you don't like the menu bar or the dock.... maybe you should try vista... the dock and menu bar are kinda important on OS X. I don't see them going away any time soon...

i don't think he was talking about mac os menubar and the dock as such, rather their specific implementations in leopard. you know, the transparent menubar as opposed to solid white and the pseudo 3d-dock?
 
Daniel,

same here... Adress book just misses every aspect of being an Apple app. See my comment on http://guides.macrumors.com/OS-X_Wish_List (and your list ;):)

I was disappointed when Tiger came out and Address Book, Mail and iCal weren't merged into one Outlook-ish app. It's apparently not going to happen in Leopard either. Instead, we're supposed to turn cartwheels over Mail because it will have a tasks function?

There are some things I really like about Mail -- searching, interface, etc. -- but this is the one area where I actually (holding my nose) prefer Microsoft.
 
Hey, does anyone know how much it costs to become an Apple developer? I'm sure I could find the information out on my own with some digging, but I imagine there are probably a few on this list that could give me some details on pricing and the different levels of developer memberships that exist.

Thanks!
 
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