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Vista is actually one GORGEOUS operating system, personally I think Apple should maybe get some inspiration from Vista.

Those are words of either a comedian or a madman. Which one are you? Vista is ugly, cluttered, unintuitive and completely without style or consistency. The day Apple gets one iota of inspiration from Vista is the day my Macbook Pro goes up for sale.
 
I have used Leopard for the past month, full time, and I agree with the original poster... the 'look' of leopard leaves much to be desired.

Fukui-
Are you free to comment on Spotlight in Leopard?
Is it working any better than in 10.4? I don't mean boolean searches with and/or...
I mean is it finding new files/emails without difficulty? Lots of problems with Spotlight in 10.4.
 
Those are words of either a comedian or a madman. Which one are you? Vista is ugly, cluttered, unintuitive and completely without style or consistency. The day Apple gets one iota of inspiration from Vista is the day my Macbook Pro goes up for sale.

Start a new thread in the Marketplace, then, because OS X's been copying from Vista almost as much as Vista has been copying from it.

Does anyone know if LEAP works right in this build? My iPhone not working with LEAP is bad enough.
 
Start a new thread in the Marketplace, then, because OS X's been copying from Vista almost as much as Vista has been copying from it.

Does anyone know if LEAP works right in this build? My iPhone not working with LEAP is bad enough.

What exactly has Leopard copied from Vista? Can you actually point out anything, or are you just talking?
 
What exactly has Leopard copied from Vista?
Transparent menubar, the blurring of the background behind transparent windows, transparent glossy black UI for the iPhone's 'slide to unlock' element and home screen, all was done on Vista before seen on OSX. Also the curvy line that runs through the new dock is very reminiscent of the pattern that MS uses behind their 'glass' apps. Both look butt ugly.
 
Transparent menubar, the blurring of the background behind transparent windows, transparent glossy black UI for the iPhone's 'slide to unlock' element and home screen, all was done on Vista before seen on OSX. Also the curvy line that runs through the new dock is very reminiscent of the pattern that MS uses behind their 'glass' apps. Both look butt ugly.

So basically all you can come up with that Leopard has allegedly copied are graphics and visual design. Nothing that has to do with actual usability. Well first, the iPhone has nothing to do with Leopard. I'm not even going to try to refute that Leopard copied the idea of transparency in user interface elements from Vista because that's a fairly basic concept. If that's all that people can come up with, though, its a pretty weak and useless argument to outright state that "Leopard copied Vista."
 
I haven't heard, but I was curious - does Leopard supports case-sensitive filenames? OS X server has since Panther if I remember right, but so far I've heard nothing about it in the non-server Leopard.
You can do that now in Disk Utility. You just have to format your drive as Case Sensitive. Leopard is no different.

You know what I want more than Leopard? A new update of Mac Messenger, it is terribly outdated, can't do voice clips, voice conversations or video conferencing. I think it is disgusting that they have abandoned it for so long!
You do know that's a Microsoft app right?
 
Those are words of either a comedian or a madman. Which one are you? Vista is ugly, cluttered, unintuitive and completely without style or consistency. The day Apple gets one iota of inspiration from Vista is the day my Macbook Pro goes up for sale.

I quite like Vista's UI, I wonder if you've even used Vista?
 
Transparent menubar, the blurring of the background behind transparent windows, transparent glossy black UI for the iPhone's 'slide to unlock' element and home screen, all was done on Vista before seen on OSX. Also the curvy line that runs through the new dock is very reminiscent of the pattern that MS uses behind their 'glass' apps. Both look butt ugly.


Erm, Apple has been using smoked black glossy UI elements since 2004.
 
performance

I am more interested in the changes made to the scheduler and threading. Changes like that can mean a big deal in performance. I also wonder if they are addressing the "big lock" issues?
 
Transparent menubar, the blurring of the background behind transparent windows, transparent glossy black UI for the iPhone's 'slide to unlock' element and home screen, all was done on Vista before seen on OSX. Also the curvy line that runs through the new dock is very reminiscent of the pattern that MS uses behind their 'glass' apps. Both look butt ugly.

I'm sorry, but not because the new menu bar is transparent makes it a rip off from Vista. It doesn't even look remotely Aero, except the fact you can see through it. I like the new bar, unlike many. It seems Aqua keeps evolving from kiddie to mature, and this new menu bar is a big step at that.

Same goes for the new Dock, really. I'll take the 'icons sitting on a glass plate'-approach any day.
 
You can do that now in Disk Utility. You just have to format your drive as Case Sensitive. Leopard is no different.

Don't format as case-sensitive. Many apps don't support it. Adobe is the one that sticks out in my mind. their programs refer to libraries inside their own application with different cases. This is fine in regular HFS, but it breaks when you make it case-sensitive, and it took me awhile to figure this out when I did it. then you have to totally reformat... fun.
 
Start a new thread in the Marketplace, then, because OS X's been copying from Vista almost as much as Vista has been copying from it.

Does anyone know if LEAP works right in this build? My iPhone not working with LEAP is bad enough.
Ok, give us facts. Personnaly I don't see anything taken from Vista in Leopard. And don't tell me transparency, it exists on Mac OS X since 2001 ...

What's next ? That Apple copied Sun for the dock ?
 
The things I'm hoping for is more iPhone interaction (remote control, wireless syncing) and that they didn't remove the iChat feature to share screens and control others computers. I would dearly love that cause a few of my friends ask me to troubleshoot their computers and I hate having to be super descriptive for them to get it, i can just manually do it for them through iChat and not have to mess with more complex VNC programs.

In the meantime you can make your VNC a little more pleasant by using Schnitz.. Its a small app that calls you, instead of you calling your friend/client. All you need is 'Chicken of the VNC set to listen.
 
Fukui-
Are you free to comment on Spotlight in Leopard?
Is it working any better than in 10.4? I don't mean boolean searches with and/or...
I mean is it finding new files/emails without difficulty? Lots of problems with Spotlight in 10.4.

It's snappier :D

No pausing between characters typed and no problems i've found..
Only the menu bar icon doesn't turn white when clicked unlike everything else.
 
Start a new thread in the Marketplace, then, because OS X's been copying from Vista almost as much as Vista has been copying from it.

Does anyone know if LEAP works right in this build? My iPhone not working with LEAP is bad enough.

Um, not quite. Watch David Pogue's video review on Vista:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaIUkwPybtM

Vista: copied Exposé, Spotlight, UI, etc, etc, etc, besides the fact that Windows Vista is like someone buying a $2,000 used Ford and installing a $10,000 stereo unit. It doesn't add up...
 
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