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What I would like is a better "auto-file". The existing one learns that you always want emails from Amex to go into "finance-statement" folder; so you click on the folder icon and the learned guess is at the top and the entire folder tree under it. I'd like it to give me three guesses as I sometimes need Amex emails to go into "business-expenses" instead. So, it will learn my 2-3 most common locations and give those as an option.
Have you tried creating Smart Folders?


Smart Folders
 
Solid color wallpaper is still not working if you try to create a custom color. I don't like the distractions of a busy wall paper so always use a rather neutral solid color. Have not been able to for the last few releases.
 
I've said it before, but removing most first party apps from the OS in favor of independent updates would be a welcome change for me. Something as simple as mail categories could be added much quicker in a standalone mail pipeline. Let alone the ability for me to uninstall Mail.app if it weren't tied to OS, as I don't use it. Or the multitude of bloat apps, like Stickies from Tiger, effectively replaced over a decade ago with Notes in Mountain Lion.

But that’s not how it works in case of Mail. The updated Mail app uses services from Apple Intelligence to do its thing. So there’s a dependency there: you cannot install Mail without the OS change.
If you meant the other way around, I 100% agree: installing the OS without even having to install Mail, since Mail is optional and you may prefer a different client. Same for all the other bloat.

In fact, that’s what the EU wants too. Also for services such as iCloud. I would like to use Photos or another service through another cloud service.
 
It's not the 1.8 Mb, it's the space in the applications menus you have to scroll over. Even the ability to move the useless apps to a folder called Z_Useless_Clutter would be a help.

Chess, Clock, FaceTime, FontBook, Freeform, Home, Messages, Mission Control, News, PhotoBooth, Podcasts, Reminders, Shortcuts, Siri, Stickies, and Voice Memos would all be in the bin.
Alternatively, you could create a folder called "My Applications", with aliases to the apps that you use.

There are plenty of other ways of launching apps without having to scroll through a Finder window, of course.

Apple isn't going to separate core utilities as 'optional extras'. Even the Unix CLI has its own mail client.
 
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Solid color wallpaper is still not working if you try to create a custom color. I don't like the distractions of a busy wall paper so always use a rather neutral solid color. Have not been able to for the last few releases.
Same with me, I just get a plain white background when choosing anything from the custom color picker. I reported it on the last two betas. That said, apart from the wallpaper issue, it's pretty solid for me - no other issues to note.
 
But that’s not how it works in case of Mail. The updated Mail app uses services from Apple Intelligence to do its thing.
I'm not sure it does. Although I've disabled it, both my phone (iPhone 11 - no AI) and my laptop (AI turned off) have all the categorisation options.
 
I guess, for people who receive a lot of emails, this feature will become useful as it learns from one's manual categorisations.

I'm not sure that just having three hard-coded category names is the best choice though; maybe it'll improve. There are so many things that iOS really should copy from MacOS, and smart folders (for both Mails and Photos) would be one.

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Speaking of hard-coded names: Focus modes still have a set of pre-defined ones, and if you pick the "custom" option, Siri will refuse to understand it. I even tried creating a Focus mode called "Sleep" (re-using one of the pre-defined names) and when I ask Siri to activate Sleep focus it just arrogantly tells me I've not enabled it.

Now, you may ask "Why not just use the pre-defined one then, Adrian, and stop being so bloody minded", well, firstly I enjoy being bloody minded and secondly the official Sleep focus mode can't be scheduled - you have to turn on the Sleep tracking stuff which I'm not using.
 
Every time I see another Dev Beta released and read notes, when it comes to Mail I just hope we get a version that actually has some of the bugs that have been there thru multiple OSes repaired, only to find out they are not. It's really a shame to keep introducing features without repairing the ones that exist.
 
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While its nice to know that Apple hasn't completely forgotten about the Mail app, how about they do the needful and fix the long-time broken Rules system so we can filter out spam properly?
 
I've said it before, but removing most first party apps from the OS in favor of independent updates would be a welcome change for me. Something as simple as mail categories could be added much quicker in a standalone mail pipeline. Let alone the ability for me to uninstall Mail.app if it weren't tied to OS, as I don't use it. Or the multitude of bloat apps, like Stickies from Tiger, effectively replaced over a decade ago with Notes in Mountain Lion.
Notes is NOT a replacement for Stickies. And Stickies is a better app, you can't keep multiple Notes pages open at the same time.

Oh, and Stickies isn't from 10.4. It's from System 7.5. It's so good and so irreplaceable that it's been around for that long.
 
Instead of adding unnecessary complexity to the mail app, which already functions adequately, why not prioritize updating the clearly outdated iMovie from the 90s?
iMovie 1.0 was better than what we've got now.

And we can't even blame Cook for that, Jobs approved the horrid redesign.
 
Apple isn't going to separate core utilities as 'optional extras'. Even the Unix CLI has its own mail client.
Except possibly for Mission Control, none of the items on the list are 'core utilities'. That is exactly the point. Just like Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, they are applications programs I don't use, so why are they non-deletable? Pages, Numbers, and Keynote were deleted as soon as I got the laptop started way back when.

Messages on the iPad became deletable some time ago, at least on the iPads that do not have a cellular modem. I was happy to get rid of it. Messages is just as useless on a laptop which also lacks a cellular connection. But I'm stuck with it.

If Launchpad was less clunky it would help too.
 
Messages on the iPad became deletable some time ago, at least on the iPads that do not have a cellular modem. I was happy to get rid of it. Messages is just as useless on a laptop which also lacks a cellular connection. But I'm stuck with it.
I use Messages on my Macbook very regularly, as I often use iMessage with people and also it can receive SMS messages sync'd from my phone, which is useful for those companies that insist that SMS is a secure 2FA method.

However, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be deletable. Just because I use it, doesn't mean everyone else does. Plus, as is often mentioned, having to wait for an OS upgrade (MacOS and iOS) to fix a bug in a stock app is silly.
 
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Notes is NOT a replacement for Stickies. And Stickies is a better app, you can't keep multiple Notes pages open at the same time.

Oh, and Stickies isn't from 10.4. It's from System 7.5. It's so good and so irreplaceable that it's been around for that long.
Cool, let me uninstall it as a non-user
 
What I think mail clients *really* need are more tools to allow selectively deleting groups of mail based on criteria you specify. I'd love it if, for example, I open a piece of mail from Walgreens and could just right-click on it to get a menu with a "Remove all mail from this sender received before" and get prompted for a date.
Someone else may have mentioned this but Mailmate almost does this. Double click sender, subject or any other meta data column you have enabled and it filters to similar messages. God I love Mailmate.
 
Notes is NOT a replacement for Stickies. And Stickies is a better app, you can't keep multiple Notes pages open at the same time.

Oh, and Stickies isn't from 10.4. It's from System 7.5. It's so good and so irreplaceable that it's been around for that long.
Actually you can have multiple Notes pages open at the same time, just double click on a note, or select "Open in a new window".
 
Have you tried creating Smart Folders?


Smart Folders
I explicitly do not want Smart Folders - I find they miss stuff or get extra stuff. Also, I want a final record into a disk-file, not a virtual file that will not be present outside of Mac Mail. I'm thinking like "Swift File" like I used in Lotus Notes (yes, corporations still force us to use that ... ugh). Swift File learns and gives three options where to file the email, like Mail does not, but two extra choices. I find that works better than a single choice.
 
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