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Apple today seeded the ninth beta of macOS 13 Ventura, the next-generation version of the Mac operating system that's set to launch this fall. The ninth beta comes one week after Apple provided the eighth beta to developers.

macos-ventura-roundup-header.jpg

Registered developers can download the beta through the Apple Developer Center and once the appropriate profile is installed, betas will be available through the Software Update mechanism in System Preferences.

macOS Ventura introduces Stage Manager, a new feature that lets Mac users focus on a task while keeping other apps at the ready for easy swapping between tasks. The update adds Continuity Camera, which is designed to let you use the iPhone as a webcam for your Mac. It supports Center Stage, Desk View (for showing off your desk), and Studio Light.

Handoff is now available for FaceTime so you can transfer calls between iPhone, iPad, and Mac at will, and Messages supports features for marking an iMessage as unread, unsending an iMessage, and marking as unread. SharePlay also now works in the Messages app.

The Mail app supports scheduling and undoing emails for up to 10 seconds after they're sent, and there are now Weather and Clock apps that are available on the Mac. System Preferences has been renamed System Settings, and it features an iOS-like design.

Safari supports Shared Tab Groups and Apple is working on Passkeys, a next-generation credential that replaces the password. There are updates to Spotlight, Photo Library has new features, and Metal 3 is included in macOS Ventura for better graphics in games.

For everything new in macOS Ventura, we have a dedicated roundup that goes through all of the features. macOS Ventura is set to see a public release in October.

Article Link: Apple Seeds Ninth Beta of macOS 13 Ventura to Developers
 

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As usual takes awhile for the OTA to appear. Safari and Mail have been working OK for my two Macs with beta 8. (M1 24" iMac and M1 Max 16" MBP). I see bit more elevated thermal temps with Ventura going from Meta 2 to metal 3. But nothing awful.
 

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Released today
  • iOS 16.1 beta 3 (20B5056e) - September 27, 2022
  • iPadOS 16 beta 10 (20B5056e) - September 27, 2022
  • macOS 13 beta 9 (22A5358e) - September 27, 2022
  • watchOS 9.1 beta 3 (20S5055e) - September 27, 2022
  • tvOS 16.1 beta 3 (20K5052c) - September 27, 2022
Beta 9 OTA just showed up now (M1 2.22 GB)
 
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MacOS 13 dev beta 9
  • Safari Version 16.1 (18614.2.7.1.1)
  • System Firmware Version: 8419.40.102.0.2 (M1 based Macs)
  • Darwin Kernel Version 22.1.0: Tue Sep 20 10:44:49 PDT 2022; root:xnu-8792.40.108.191.2~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T8103 arm64
MacOS 13 dev beta 8
  • Safari Version 16.1 (18614.2.6.1.1)
  • System Firmware Version: 8419.40.95.0.1 (M1 based Macs)
  • Darwin Kernel Version 22.1.0: Tue Sep 13 21:12:03 PDT 2022; root:xnu-8792.40.101.181.2~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T8103 arm64
 

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General​

Known Issues​

Important

Update to macOS 13 Ventura beta 6 or later before installing firmware updates for Apple Studio Display. (97624990)

AppKit​

CoreGraphics​

Deprecations​

  • To improve security, CGImageCreate enforces parameter correctness on macOS 13 Ventura, iOS 16, iPadOS 16, watchOS 9, and tvOS 16. Passing an incorrect CGImageByteOrderInfo is no longer supported, and will result in images failing to load. (94855401)

DeviceDiscoveryUI​

Known Issues​

  • Devices running beta 4 or later aren’t backwards compatible with devices running earlier beta versions. (95233878)

Home​

Resolved in macOS 13 Ventura beta 9​

  • Fixed: You might be unable to pair using a Matter ECM code via the Matter Support Framework pairing API. (99232681)

Mail​

Known Issues​

  • Moving a Remind Me message to another mailbox doesn’t remove the Remind Me banner. (93685824)

Memory Allocation​

Known Issues​

  • The system memory allocator free operation zeroes out all deallocated blocks in macOS 13 beta or later. Invalid accesses to free memory might result in new crashes or corruption, including NULL-pointer dereferences and non-zero memory being returned from calloc. (97449075)

Metal​

Known Issues​

  • The MTLResource.gpuHandle is deprecated. (92862429)
    Workaround: Use gpuResourceID instead, which functions as a replacement.

Metal Offline Compiler​

Known Issues​

  • MetalFX effect outputs aren’t designed to be consumed by the CPU. Outputting to a texture that is read only by the CPU might result in synchronization issues. (91515075)
    Workaround: If a CPU reading of the MetalFX output is desired, instead of encoding the MetalFX effect as the last item in a command buffer, encode a dummy blit that consumes the MetalFX output texture (a 1-pixel region blit is fine) in the command buffer. After the command buffer with the dummy blit is finished, reading of the MetalFX effect output texture with CPU synchronizes correctly.

Networking​

Deprecations​

  • FTP is deprecated for URLSession and related APIs. Please adopt modern secure networking protocols such as HTTPS. (92623659)

StoreKit​

Deprecations​

  • Deprecated the SKDownload API and removed the option to upload nonconsumable in-app purchase assets for Apple to host. In addition, support for managing these assets in App Store Connect is no longer available as of April 2022. (89764253)

Swift​

Known Issues​

  • Network.framework resolved an issue that could cause NWBrowser, NWConnection, NWConnectionGroup, NWEthernetChannel, NWListener, and NWPathMonitor to trigger a retain cycle when various Handler blocks are set. Starting with macOS 13, iOS 16, watchOS 9, and tvOS 16, if software using Network.framework targets these releases as the minimum OS, the object releases any blocks they captured once cancelled, breaking the retain cycle. (89677097)
    Workaround: For software targeting older versions, the retain cycle can be broken by setting the handler blocks to nil after canceling the object.

SwiftUI​

Known Issues​

  • Providing actions to a navigationTitle modifier has been deprecated. Use the toolbarTitleActions()modifier or ToolbarTitleActions type in a toolbar modifier instead. (93658035)

Texts and Fonts​

Deprecations​

  • ATS and ATSUI APIs are fully deprecated. Code using these APIs will fail to compile and link when the deployment target is set to 13. Code targeting earlier versions of macOS will continue to compile, link, and run. macOS 13 is the last release where code depending on ATS or ATSUI will run. All runtime functionality will be removed in next major release of macOS. (83581159)

Wallet​

Known Issues​

  • American Express cards might need to be removed and re-added to Wallet after updating to macOS 13 beta 6 or later. (97990752)
 

patearrings

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Getting this error when installing from both system settings and terminal. Anyone have any ideas? Seems to be all sorts of problems in there. Definitely nothing wrong with my internet connection.

Finding available software
Downloading macOS Ventura 13 Beta 9
Downloading: 100.00%
Failed to download & prepare update: Error Domain=SUOSUErrorDomain Code=201 "Failed to prepare the software update. Please try again." UserInfo={NSLocalizedRecoverySuggestion=An error occurred while downloading the selected updates. Please check your internet connection and try again., NSLocalizedDescription=Failed to prepare the software update. Please try again., NSUnderlyingError=0x600001eb0db0 {Error Domain=SUMacControllerError Code=7740 "[SUMacControllerErrorPrepareFailed=7740] Failed to perform Prepare operation: [MobileSoftwareUpdateErrorDomain(MSU):MSU_ERR_FILESYSTEM_DOESNT_VERIFY(3)_1_MobileSoftwareUpdateBOMErrorDomain:1|FullReplacementRequired|]" UserInfo={SUMacControllerErrorIndicationsSummary=|FullReplacementRequired|, SUMacControllerErrorIndicationsMask=2, NSUnderlyingError=0x600001eabe10 {Error Domain=MobileSoftwareUpdateErrorDomain Code=3 "'./System/Library/KernelCollections/SystemKernelExtensions.kc' does not verify" UserInfo={target_update=22A5358e, NSUnderlyingError=0x600001eabd80 {Error Domain=MobileSoftwareUpdateBOMErrorDomain Code=1 "contents of '/System/Volumes/Update/mnt1/System/Library/KernelCollections/SystemKernelExtensions.kc' don't match bom (3d05d831 vs 63179136)" UserInfo=0x6000010bbb00 (not displayed)}, MSUFullReplacementRecommened=true, NSLocalizedDescription='./System/Library/KernelCollections/SystemKernelExtensions.kc' does not verify}}, NSLocalizedDescription=Failed to prepare the software update. Please try again., NSDebugDescription=[SUMacControllerErrorPrepareFailed=7740] Failed to perform Prepare operation: [MobileSoftwareUpdateErrorDomain(MSU):MSU_ERR_FILESYSTEM_DOESNT_VERIFY(3)_1_MobileSoftwareUpdateBOMErrorDomain:1|FullReplacementRequired|], SUMacControllerErrorIndicationsDescription=-> Full replacement is required [as opposed to incremental patch].}}}
 
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Apple today seeded the ninth beta of macOS 13 Ventura, the next-generation version of the Mac operating system that's set to launch this fall. The ninth beta comes one week after Apple provided the eighth beta to developers.

macos-ventura-roundup-header.jpg

Registered developers can download the beta through the Apple Developer Center and once the appropriate profile is installed, betas will be available through the Software Update mechanism in System Preferences.

macOS Ventura introduces Stage Manager, a new feature that lets Mac users focus on a task while keeping other apps at the ready for easy swapping between tasks. The update adds Continuity Camera, which is designed to let you use the iPhone as a webcam for your Mac. It supports Center Stage, Desk View (for showing off your desk), and Studio Light.

Handoff is now available for FaceTime so you can transfer calls between iPhone, iPad, and Mac at will, and Messages supports features for marking an iMessage as unread, unsending an iMessage, and marking as unread. SharePlay also now works in the Messages app.

The Mail app supports scheduling and undoing emails for up to 10 seconds after they're sent, and there are now Weather and Clock apps that are available on the Mac. System Preferences has been renamed System Settings, and it features an iOS-like design.

Safari supports Shared Tab Groups and Apple is working on Passkeys, a next-generation credential that replaces the password. There are updates to Spotlight, Photo Library has new features, and Metal 3 is included in macOS Ventura for better graphics in games.

For everything new in macOS Ventura, we have a dedicated roundup that goes through all of the features. macOS Ventura is set to see a public release in October.

Article Link: Apple Seeds Ninth Beta of macOS 13 Ventura to Developers
I wonder how long it will take to work with the main audio software. I only upgraded to Monterey a month ago and even then not all audio software is compatible yet. A lot of pro musicians and composers use Apple computers, but many are still using old versions of OSX because of compatibility issues.

Even M1 Mac are a big problem because for music a lot of plugins are used and many plugins aren't compatible or require Rosetta. So you can't run a DAW that recoded for Apple Silicon and load plugins that use Rosetta. Apple get your engineers working with the major audio app developers and get these issues resolved.
 

adrianlondon

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Cut & paste from previous beta thread as none are fixed:

* The icon for the British keyboard is [A]
* AppleScript for extracting calendar event alerts doesn't work
* Calendar events (created with a location) have a "time to leave" alert set even if that is disabled
 

MrWeenus

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Stage manager seems to work a little bit better. No more disappearing icons and no more double click to activate the window.

spoke too soon. wtf is wrong with apple?
 
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ichavis

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anyone have issues with granting full disk access to Anti Virus apps? This is a new problem with Beta 9.
 
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