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Apple today seeded Mavericks 10.9.5 build 13F31 to developers, just over a week after seeding the fifth OS X 10.9.5 beta, build 13F24, and more than a month after releasing OS X 10.9.4 to the public.

The beta is available through the Software Update mechanism in the Mac App Store and through the Mac Developer Center.

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It is unclear what improvements the 10.9.5 update will bring to Mavericks, but it is likely to include bug fixes and stability enhancements. Apple is asking developers to focus on USB, USB Smart Cards, Graphics, Safari, and Thunderbolt.

Along with working on improvements to Mavericks, Apple is also beta testing OS X Yosemite, which is due to be released in the fall. The last Mavericks update, 10.9.4, added several Wi-Fi fixes and improved wake from sleep reliability.

Article Link: Apple Seeds OS X Mavericks 10.9.5 Build 13F31 to Developers
 

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I would imagine that this will get released before yosemite, so I hope this gets released soon. I am enjoying my yosemite, but would like to get the official release.
 
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kingtj

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Haven't noticed this one ...

But, ahem... that's probably because I can't get my external Thunderbolt drive array to stop having problems whenever the Mac Pro wakes from sleep. (Sleep causes it to disconnect and corrupt data.) So no sleep for my Mac until they fix this ridiculous issue.


I hope they have fixed Mavericks's 'Sleep/wake crash'. Very annoying.
 
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Rog210

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"it is likely to include bug fixes and stability enhancements"

Ya think?
 
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Parasprite

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Too be honest, who cares about Mavericks anymore? lol Yosemite is just around the corner :D

It's generally good practice to wait before installing a .0 release (preferably until .1) in case there are major bugs that effect your workflow, and to make sure your software is compatible.

...fortunately, I'm impulsive and prefer to live dangerously. :cool:
 
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Merode

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Too be honest, who cares about Mavericks anymore? lol Yosemite is just around the corner :D

I'd love to update to Yosemite on day 1, but it's risky. There tend to be some unforseen bugs - I prefer to wait and lurk the forums for a week.

It's good to have stable release of Mavericks in case of bugs and Apple is still working on it which is great.
 
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coolfactor

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I hope they have fixed Mavericks's 'Sleep/wake crash'. Very annoying.

You'll need to be more specific. Doesn't happen on any of my Macs.

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Too be honest, who cares about Mavericks anymore? lol Yosemite is just around the corner :D

Yosemite just feels too alien to me to be a true Mac OS. I'm running a fresh install of Public Beta on a 2012 MacBook Pro and the "feel" just isn't right. Not even close to the finely-tuned feel of Mavericks and previous incarnations. I think it takes things too far. I just hope they continue to refine the UI to get back the original Mac feel.

And that darn smiling Finder icon needs to go! Bring back to more subtle smile. It communicates a very different emotion/attitude. I don't want to be using a child's toy.
 
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milo

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finely-tuned feel of Mavericks

I would argue that none of the OSX .0 releases really had a finely tuned feel. And while the updates always help, there have been a few that never felt finely tuned to me, they just came out with the next major release. And people have been saying Mac OS is a toy not just since the first version of OSX, but all the versions of Mac OS before that.
 
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Personally, I have both installed (different drives), but Mavericks will probably be my main OS for quite some time. Mavericks (to me) just feels more solid and I prefer it's looks over Yosemite. I might change my mind on this later but for now that's where I stand.
 
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loby

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I welcome any updates to Mavericks, for as others have said a new OS X stills has bugs. For those who use OS X for business, we need a stable version for production. Too risky to update right away. I was an early beta tester for Yosemite and was not impressed with it, so I will not update quickly and will wait until it grows on me.

I would like to ask Apple if I could, "Why the need to change the OS X every year?".
 
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arefbe

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I would like to ask Apple if I could, "Why the need to change the OS X every year?".

This. Why is there an OS X update every year? I can't believe people want it.
 
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Updates are good, for improvements are always welcomed, but I am referring to a new OS X with its comparability issues etc. A one year cycle is to short, but a three year cycle at least would be better.

Mavericks is JUST now starting to be a stable and reliable OS X and it took one year to iron out the bugs. Now it will not get the attention once Yosemite comes out and in another year Mavericks will will start to lose updates etc.

It would be nice to have a stable OS X with just continued updates added for awhile. Understand that mostly the previous OS is the base for the new, but constant upgrading if you have external gear is costly.

Companies don't continue support for drivers and some gear are still working and new enough to be used still for a few years. I had issues when Apple kicked out Rosetta and had to buy all new gear (music) after Lion when I bought a new computer. The gear was not old and for the price, still should be relevant with the latest OS X.

To expensive to keep replacing gear every two years.
 
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crashoverride77

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I would like to ask Apple if I could, "Why the need to change the OS X every year?".

This. Why is there an OS X update every year? I can't believe people want it.

Because some people want new features, better security and a general better user experience not every 3-4 years. Mavericks was pretty awesome right out of the box. I personally would hate if they release an os every 3 years. Osx is like ios now, free upgrades every year and Me and the majority of people love that.

Besides that I never understand the major trouble people have with upgrading osx it's so easy and 99/100 times it never messes up anything, especially compared to windows.
In your world progress would be very slow. Also people love to complain about tiny bugs here and there and apple is loosing its way BLABLABLA. Imagine they would only upgrade every 4 years, people would be like apple is lazy, where are the features, osx is so old, apple doesn't care about osx BLABLABLA.
 
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Eithanius

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Because some people want new features, better security and a general better user experience not every 3-4 years. Mavericks was pretty awesome right out of the box. I personally would hate if they release an os every 3 years. Osx is like ios now, free upgrades every year and Me and the majority of people love that.

Besides that I never understand the major trouble people have with upgrading osx it's so easy and 99/100 times it never messes up anything, especially compared to windows.
In your world progress would be very slow. Also people love to complain about tiny bugs here and there and apple is loosing its way BLABLABLA. Imagine they would only upgrade every 4 years, people would be like apple is lazy, where are the features, osx is so old, apple doesn't care about osx BLABLABLA.

3-4 years...? Where did you get that idea anyway...? The longest OS X iterations has been 10.4 Tiger for 30 months before Leopard came out (and if you failed math, 30 months is LESS than 3 years)... And Tiger happened to be one of the most stable OS X releases to date with 11 maintenance releases.

And since you've come from the Windows :rolleyes: world I bet you have not used anything before Mavericks or even before Lion...? It's sad that recent Apple efforts have only attracted Windows users like you to OS X just to heap praises around how superior Mavericks is to Windows. Well let me tell you something - every OS X releases prior to Lion is way much better than what you think you now have. Useless features like Full Screen crap and Window Resizing from every other corner is just another Windows-copied-over features, which I think don't even qualify as features.

IMO the last major features ever introduced by Apple enough to wow the crowd would probably be Leopard. Snow Leopard, though without major features, was the high point release that some people here are still using - stability and efficiency. Anything beyond that are craps just to lure Windows losers over for a bigger market share.

Right now I find more tiny bugs on Mavericks than in Snow Leopard. Granted Mavericks will only have 5 maintenance releases with the upcoming 10.9.5 soon, compared to Snow Leopard with 8. If Mavericks is to be given a chance for 8, it would have been equal if not coming close to the latter's performance and stability.

This is something that you WILL NOT understand... :rolleyes:
 
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Zombolo

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Personally, I have both installed (different drives), but Mavericks will probably be my main OS for quite some time. Mavericks (to me) just feels more solid and I prefer it's looks over Yosemite. I might change my mind on this later but for now that's where I stand.

THiS! Yosemite for me is just a mess. No-eye straining with Mavericks (Macbook Air 13 - Early 2014).
 
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Tubamajuba

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Stability is relative.

I have yet to use a version of OS X that caused me any problems, small or large. From 10.7.5 on, including the developer previews of Mavericks and Yosemite, OS X has been speedy and rock-solid. Even on the stock 5400 RPM drive I used to have in my machine.

Some people, on the other hand, have different usage scenarios for which even the 10.x.4 or 10.x.5 updates don't suffice.

I wish people would stop making statements like "Yosemite is perfect". or "Mavericks is a bug-riddled pile of feces". Every piece of software has bugs in it, and different usage scenarios uncover more or less of them.
 
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Parasprite

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3-4 years...? Where did you get that idea anyway...? The longest OS X iterations has been 10.4 Tiger for 30 months before Leopard came out (and if you failed math, 30 months is LESS than 3 years)... And Tiger happened to be one of the most stable OS X releases to date with 11 maintenance releases.

And since you've come from the Windows :rolleyes: world I bet you have not used anything before Mavericks or even before Lion...? It's sad that recent Apple efforts have only attracted Windows users like you to OS X just to heap praises around how superior Mavericks is to Windows. Well let me tell you something - every OS X releases prior to Lion is way much better than what you think you now have. Useless features like Full Screen crap and Window Resizing from every other corner is just another Windows-copied-over features, which I think don't even qualify as features.

I've been here since Leopard and I've only regretted Lion, every other version newer than Leopard was better than the previous for me. I can't really can't stand using anything older than ML anymore.

Edit: Oh, and I think they were referring to a more "Windows-like" schedule when they said 3-4 years. Also a common complaint with some software (e.g., Photoshop, Office, Parallels) since new versions may have to be upgraded every year instead of 3-4 and to where compatibility may become a concern.

Edit 2: Well...not really "Windows-like" as much as it is historical. Everything seems to be on a fast release schedule these days...
 
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