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I guess 432 could be upgraded to the final version, while 421 as we know could not but a clean install.
 
strange how the seed notes do not say anything about this being a "Gold Master" or a final release...
 
strange how the seed notes do not say anything about this being a "Gold Master" or a final release...

My two cents: If they wrote "This is the exact same version that will be on the DVD's" in the notes that came along with it, Apple would sell 2 copies of SL the first weekend ;)
 
I was thinking, Both Microsoft and Apple are on a very tight release plan in order to be ahead of each other. The company that releases first has most certainly got the advantage, and the company that releases second may be over stemmed by the other. So theres a real war going on here. Maybe it's because of this that apple has laid all their focus on getting the actual features done and making them bug free rather than writing some 64bit drivers for older machines as this is relatively easy to realise after the initial release in the form of an update.
 
I was thinking, Both Microsoft and Apple are on a very tight release plan in order to be ahead of each other. The company that releases first has most certainly got the advantage, and the company that releases second may be over stemmed by the other. So theres a real war going on here. Maybe it's because of this that apple has laid all their focus on getting the actual features done and making them bug free rather than writing some 64bit drivers for older machines as this is relatively easy to realise after the initial release in the form of an update.

That's what I was thinking too. Just because there's no 64bit Kernel right out of the box, doesn't mean there will never be one. Perhaps Apple just ran out of time and rather than hold Snow Leopard back from EVERYONE, they just decided to put off the older machines' drivers for now.
 
Do you all really think Apple will release the final GM product to devs already? I seriously doubt it. I believe this may be the one right before final and we'll get a software update the day of the release. We didn't get the iPhone GM build until the day of the announcement, not before. The same probably applies for this.
 
I did this and can't find anything about 10.6 anywhere?

If you login and click on downloads. It's actually right there in front of you. It goes

What's New

Mac OS X version 10.6 Snow Leopard build 10A432
 
Can we get some first hand feedback on the build?

I'm tired of reading page after page of moaning about hardware support for 64 bit kernel in SL.
 
That's actually real.

It's hilarious - when I saw it on my machine I thought it was a joke at first, but yeah, it's real. Almost convinces me that this is NOT the gold master, because I really can't believe that's the image Apple is using for the install disc for good!
 
I was thinking, Both Microsoft and Apple are on a very tight release plan in order to be ahead of each other.

Window 7 went RTM (GM) in on 13 July, and the Windows 7 release date is 22 October. This has been known for quite some time.

It's no longer a race, 10.6 will already be out when Windows 7 officially ships.

Of course, millions of users are already running Windows 7 RC (good until March) and the RTM kits are on the torrents. MSDN (Microsoft's developer program) has the final kits and keys available to subscribers as well.


The company that releases first has most certainly got the advantage, and the company that releases second may be over stemmed by the other. So theres a real war going on here.

On the other hand, the one that releases 2nd is the "newest OS on the planet". People tend to remember the latest thing, so releasing second can be an advantage.

In another sense, Windows 7 has already "released first" through its wide-open Beta and RC program.

I think the only "war" is to have systems ready for the end-of-year shopping season. With its broad eco-system, Microsoft needs to give its partners time to optimize and "value-add" to the OS, build systems, and get them to the stores. That's why there is a three-month window between RTM and sales. (It's also a 3-month window to fix issues and have Windows Update ready for the new systems - I installed 7600 yesterday and there were already 2 updates available, although they weren't bug fixes.)


Maybe it's because of this that apple has laid all their focus on getting the actual features done and making them bug free rather than writing some 64bit drivers for older machines as this is relatively easy to realise after the initial release in the form of an update.

Other operating systems usually do core OS support first, so that those features can be tested on all machines.

I think that "Apple wants you to buy new Apples" is the more likely reason.
 
Can we get some first hand feedback on the build?

I'm tired of reading page after page of moaning about hardware support for 64 bit kernel in SL.

I've been looking but so far can't find anything new! Feels stable and zippier but that's probably just because it's a clean install.
 
Can we get some first hand feedback on the build?

I'm tired of reading page after page of moaning about hardware support for 64 bit kernel in SL.

No visible changes. Feels faster, but doesn't it always?
 
How did you guys get it...? did you guys pay for your account?
btw i can't find it on my download 'what's new' tab...
no signs of 10.6 existence.
 
How did you guys get it...? did you guys pay for your account?
btw i can't find it on my download 'what's new' tab...
no signs of 10.6 existence.

Haha, of course you have to pay otherwise everyone would have it. ADC membership is $499.
 
At the Risk of Getting the Wrath of the Intel people...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10308621-1.html?tag=mncol


Adobe Creative Suite to abandon PowerPC Macs
by Dong Ngo

It's probably time you said goodbye to your PowerPC-based Mac.

Adobe confirmed Tuesday that future versions of its Creative Suite will run only on Intel-based Mac computers. There will be no support offered for PowerPC based systems.

The company's decision follows Apple's announcement in June that it was discontinuing support for the PowerPC in its new operating systems, starting beginning with Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard). With Apple's future development focused on Intel Macs, Adobe is aligning its resources accordingly.

...

I have no problem with Adobe's decision.
They are only following Apple's lead and deserve no blame.

The problem is Apple has broken a 25yr+ trust with its customers, some its most loyal too, by for the first time in Apple's history, not supporting 2-3 yr old $2000-$4000 machines with an operating system upgrade. When the Intel switch was first announced, Steve Jobs made lots of PowerPC promises and Apple continued to sell PowerPC machines and guarantee their support to keep sales from tanking.

Steve Jobs broke those promises with Snow Leopard.
You can make lots of valid arguments for not supporting PowerPC in Snow Leopard, but you can't change history.

PS: MacOS 10.5 Leopard supported machines as old as 6-7 years officially and MacOS 10.4 was probably in the same range, I'll have to check that to verify, but CERTAINLY NOT just Macs 2-3 yrs old!
 
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