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Is it me or does it feel like Apple has reached a bottleneck with macOS development? I think after 22 years it’s possible the OS is just in need of a complete rewrite. The OS is even older than Classic Mac OS at the time of its discontinuation. I remember Steve Jobs saying this was supposed to be the platform for the next 15 to 20 years.
 
No OTA yet on my M1 air. Also hoping for some memory leak fixes...

EDIT: Now available
I am on 12.2 bata 1
I was getting memory leaks on 12.01. On Safari and ANY VIDEO CONVERTER for downloading YouTube videos

I went from 12.01 all the way to 12.2 Bata 1. And NO MEMORY LEAKS YET.

Maybe there are programs I am not using that may still have Memory Leaks? But so far so good
 
This is the only issue I am experiencing on my MBP. On my iMac Time Machine works great.
I had this issue over the holidays on 12.2 beta. Turned out to be a corrupted backup file on my NAS. Once I deleted that and created a new backup, it's been running fine.
 
Is it me or does it feel like Apple has reached a bottleneck with macOS development? I think after 22 years it’s possible the OS is just in need of a complete rewrite. The OS is even older than Classic Mac OS at the time of its discontinuation. I remember Steve Jobs saying this was supposed to be the platform for the next 15 to 20 years.

A complete rewrite would mean waiting for 10 years to get all the features back. macOS has a solid foundation, bugs and issues are not the result of old code. New features are becoming increasingly complex. In fact, I'd say, with everything taken into account, macOS is quite stable - and is relatively lean considering they are dropping old systems. I mean, just look at Windows - 11 is the first version that is 64bit only, and it still supports 32bit apps. And just look at all the bloat they have to carry over to keep supporting old systems (every attempt to cut anything off is met with fierce resistance from their customers).

No, I think macOS is ok. Our computers to do increasingly complex things, and the nature of software is that things break. Apple should, perhaps, take more more time to implement features - and they actually are doing that. They delayed Universal Control to get it working well. When you look at Monterey, it's relatively stable. Sure, there are some bugs, but these are minor things.
 
I had this issue over the holidays on 12.2 beta. Turned out to be a corrupted backup file on my NAS. Once I deleted that and created a new backup, it's been running fine.
Same wonder if it was a bug that corrupted the backups. I just purged everything and started over.
 
Here's hoping Apple fixed the TV app audio glitch when viewing 4K/HDR content in full screen ?
 
Great to see a beta out but how are we going on a month of a beta 1 for a .x release for iOS? I guess work from home really is hurting Apple everyone is still in "holiday" mode.

There’s no rush. 12.1 works fine. Working from home has nothing to do with it; Apple has slowed down over the holidays for many years.
 
Is it me or does it feel like Apple has reached a bottleneck with macOS development? I think after 22 years it’s possible the OS is just in need of a complete rewrite. The OS is even older than Classic Mac OS at the time of its discontinuation. I remember Steve Jobs saying this was supposed to be the platform for the next 15 to 20 years.
Has anyone in trade magazines ever said MacOS has reached a bottleneck? I don't recall so. We have the usual issues much involving older hardware trying to run the latest OS with a wide variety of software. BTW its a few months older then 20 years. (September 25, 2001 - Puma). Its also the youngest of all the commercial available UNIX's out there. Other UNIX's date back a lot earlier. ;)

So far beta 2 is running OK, system FW is 7429.80.33 on M1. Safari Version 15.3 (17612.4.8.1.1)
 
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Is it me or does it feel like Apple has reached a bottleneck with macOS development? I think after 22 years it’s possible the OS is just in need of a complete rewrite. The OS is even older than Classic Mac OS at the time of its discontinuation. I remember Steve Jobs saying this was supposed to be the platform for the next 15 to 20 years.
There is no need in "complete rewrite". I suppose there is old code, that need refactor/rewrite, but create completly new OS from scratch is very hard even for big companies, and whats the purpose of this? Every soft have bugs, bad parts and etc. So new OS wont fix any issue here.
 
Is it me or does it feel like Apple has reached a bottleneck with macOS development? I think after 22 years it’s possible the OS is just in need of a complete rewrite. The OS is even older than Classic Mac OS at the time of its discontinuation. I remember Steve Jobs saying this was supposed to be the platform for the next 15 to 20 years.
Interesting idea. Never heard of it before. But what could be done under a new OS that can't be done by editing the current one?
 
Is it me or does it feel like Apple has reached a bottleneck with macOS development? I think after 22 years it’s possible the OS is just in need of a complete rewrite. The OS is even older than Classic Mac OS at the time of its discontinuation. I remember Steve Jobs saying this was supposed to be the platform for the next 15 to 20 years.
Apple is constantly changing the underlying parts of the OS, and modernising it. We have seen so many already, SL and 64-bit switch, APFS, System Volume changes in Catalina, BS, and Monterey etc. We also got a pretty nifty UI uplift in BS, which I think is very coherent compared to the mixed flavours of Tiger-Leopard-SL era, and the dull flat 2013+ era.

I will be very glad if they fix the Finder though. I so much want the Spatial Finder and WindowShade back.
 
There is no need in "complete rewrite". I suppose there is old code, that need refactor/rewrite, but create completly new OS from scratch is very hard even for big companies, and whats the purpose of this? Every soft have bugs, bad parts and etc. So new OS wont fix any issue here.
This is a reminder for some to read up about Copland and Gershwin 1994 thru 1996. They were both canceled by Apple CTO Ellen Hancock in August 1996. These two efforts was why Apple stock bottomed 1996. It's a stark reminder to the challenge of a complete rewrite. ;)
 
Is this second beta available yet to the general public (non-developers)?
 
Is it me or does it feel like Apple has reached a bottleneck with macOS development? I think after 22 years it’s possible the OS is just in need of a complete rewrite. The OS is even older than Classic Mac OS at the time of its discontinuation. I remember Steve Jobs saying this was supposed to be the platform for the next 15 to 20 years.
:rolleyes:

No operating system gets completely rewritten. They receive staged evolutions and staged deprecations. OS X was not a rewrite of NeXTSTEP/Openstep. It was a compromise and pull back of a lot of features and integration to make way for the more traditional Mac way. Along the way there have been many decisions to ‘dumb down' the OS to make it more appealing to a broader audience pool.

Personally, one of the bad decisions was the push Swift forward instead of evolving ObjC and use Swift as a training language. Many features of ObjC are not possible in Swift. Lots of work continues to go into Swift to produce similar results seen with ObjC/C/C++/ObjC++ designs. That takes a lot of time and personnel. It gets harder as the business markets continue to expand into other areas. Then add in people with decades of experience in dozens of languages retiring and you have to mitigate training next in-house generations of talent to take over their responsibilities.

You don't blow up the ship and start from scratch at this point.
 
Let’s hope the AirPods bug that I only experience on my Mac is fixed.
Just curious what bug? I just got a pair of Gen 3s for christmas Ive been using with my Intel Mac Mini and for the most part they work great but after awhile they start doing this thing where when I play some audio, the volume is FULL BLAST for a second and then it turns it back down to what I have the volume set to. Have to delete them and repair them and it works for a bit like it should again but eventually I get hit with BLASTING music in my ears, and its long enough before the volume drops someone could get some serious hearing damage this way. My ears are already bad enough from playing in front of 100 watt stacks of amps most of my life.
 
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