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Apple Seeds Sixth Beta of macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 to Developers

Solomani said:
Six betas is getting up there. But it does hint that they are not satisfied for a public release version until they've worked on the bugs, thats a good thing! Have we ever seen as many as 8 or 9 beta versions for a minor point update?
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There were 11 betas for 10.8.3.
 
Does anyone know if Message in iCloud deletes work correctly now?

I haven't had a chance to update to this beta yet, but in other betas Messages in iCloud do not delete on other devices.

For example my iPad pops up a dialog box asking if I'm sure that I want to delete a thread, then it is deleted everywhere. My MBP just deletes it but then it's only deleted on my MBP, no where else.
 
kylew1212 said:
Does anyone know if Message in iCloud deletes work correctly now?

I haven't had a chance to update to this beta yet, but in other betas Messages in iCloud do not delete on other devices.

For example my iPad pops up a dialog box asking if I'm sure that I want to delete a thread, then it is deleted everywhere. My MBP just deletes it but then it's only deleted on my MBP, no where else.
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My experience is, that if I delete the thread using the keyboard, I will get the prompt asking if I want to delete on all devices. If I delete a thread by clicking on the 'x' with my mouse, it is just deleted locally on my macbook.

Could be a bug, could be by design.
 
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HenrikWivel said:
My experience is, that if I delete the thread using the keyboard, I will get the prompt asking if I want to delete on all devices. If I delete a thread by clicking on the 'x' with my mouse, it is just deleted locally on my macbook.

Could be a bug, could be by design.
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Hmm, I've been swiping the threads to the left and clicking delete. I hadn't thought about pressing the delete key, I will try that tonight.

Thanks!
 
Westside guy said:
Wow, I have a LOT of 32-bit apps. Most of them are old games... but not all.

How am I going to play Burning Monkey Solitaire on 10.14??? 😛
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TBH, I think many users will complain if macOS 10.14 will block the use of 32 bit-apps.
Especially on the Mac, many users hang on to old but very capable apps.

It seems more of a "clean-up" by Apple regarding older apps being eliminated than it is necessary.
Same with iOS 11. I still miss some fun 32-bit apps which simply are not updated nor replaced (Tiger Woods PGA 2012 for instance).

64 bits apps are not faster or more secure than 32 bits apps if the app in question doesn't need the address space. Going all 64 bits does make it all "cleaner", but it took quite a while for most major apps to become 64 bits on macOS.

It does give the developers the urgency to update their apps to 64 bits and therefore make use of the latest and greatest security enhancements.

Take a look at this support document from Microsoft about Office and 32/64 bits for some reference:
https://support.office.com/en-us/ar...d0c-b5fe-6c6f49b8d261?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US
 
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Janichsan said:
And yet, every minor beta iOS release gets featured on the main page.
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You beat me to it and you are absolutely correct. Does Macrumors consider macOS to be of any importance if not it should be renamed iOSrumors as there is now primarily iOS content or blanket coverage of any other Apple device such as the HomePod.

Macrumors has lost focus and direction to the extent that the Mac user needs to go searching for articles of interest.
 
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MacsRgr8 said:
It seems more of a "clean-up" by Apple regarding older apps being eliminated than it is necessary.
Same with iOS 11. I still miss some fun 32-bit apps which simply are not updated nor replaced (Tiger Woods PGA 2012 for instance).
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Tiger Woods 2012 is the best! Fortunately I've kept an old iPad Mini (original) for just such purposes (it never leaves the house and has no banking etc. info on it, so I don't particularly care about its security).

I would've kept all my iOS devices on 10.x, because 11.x is a dog in many sundry ways... but there are some significant security patches which came with iOS 11.
 
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MacsRgr8 said:
TBH, I think many users will complain if macOS 10.14 will block the use of 32 bit-apps. Especially on the Mac, many users hang on to old but very capable apps.
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This article actually helped prod me a little bit.

Up until now I've been keeping the Macs that I'm responsible for managing mostly on El Capitan - it's stable, it's still getting security updates, and it's not like Sierra or High Sierra actually added much of significance. However I've been aware that those El Capitan updates will stop this year as soon as the new macOS is released. So after this article reminded me (tangentially) of the pending new macOS release, I spent this week testing the latest release version of High Sierra to see if it's settled down and is a functional work environment - which it fortunately seems to be, finally.

On my own Mac, at least, I do still have some 32-bit apps I like (and whose developers are no longer around) - so unless there's some unforeseen and compelling advance in the next version or two of macOS, I'm likely going to keep everything on High Sierra for some time. Most of the work machines have now been updated now, and I'm doing the home Macs today.
 
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