Based on timing of Leopard my guess is Snow Leopard Release late January/Early February
Who said 64 bit only? I don't think that is true.
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Based on timing of Leopard my guess is Snow Leopard Release late January/Early February
Who said 64 bit only? I don't think that is true.
Wait.... I just thought of this; if I sign up for the student ADC program to save on a hardware purchase, do I get this early Snow Leopard stuff, too?
Maybe because software builds are under NDA, and people like to call people out on that.
A quote from Steve Jobs at WWDC 08
"will ship in about a year"
so we will expect to hear a little at MacWorld '09 and I think that at WWDC '09 Steve will say.. "It will be shipping this friday!"
Total guess!
No, but what you do get is a free copy of any OS that is released during the year of your ADC student membership. Thats what I did with Leopard. I got discount on the MacPro and then got Leopard for free a few months later.
I strongly disagree with the abandonment of PowerPC. Apple should name it SNOW JOB 10.6
Leopard is a bug-ridden dog on PowerPC Macs compared to Tiger and now Apple's answer to that is QUALITY and PERFORMANCE enhancements to INTEL-ONLY Macs? Ridiculous. I'm surprised there isn't already a class action lawsuit over this. The description alone of Snow Leopard almost sounds like an admission of guilt that Apple got it wrong the first go-round with Leopard!
Leopard has to be Steve Jobs' biggest reality distortion field con job yet and I've been using Apple products since 1983.
And yes, I own plenty of PowerPC Macs, and I don't feel that Leopard is a quality product even on my Dual 1.8 G5. We won't even get into how buggy Leopard is on an 867MHz Powermac G4 Quicksilver or my MDD, but yes, Apple certified Leopard to run on those machines. Why is it that my MDD Mac freezes inexplicably from time to time in Leopard or my G5 kernel panics when each of these machines runs flawlessly for months without a reboot in Tiger. Riddle me THAT Batman!
Sometimes I feel like its as if Apple barely even tested the PowerPC version of Leopard much and most of the bug fixes I see happening in each update appear to be more Intel-related and Snow Leopard only confirms my early suspicions.
I'm sure if Steve Jobs had his way, he'd have put a PowerPC chip in a coffin at last year's MacWorld. But, I'm sure the lawyers would have warned him Apple would see the mother of all lawsuits and public outrage.
Sure, the PC switchers, iPhone, & iPod sales are making the paychecks now for Apple now, but the people who spent upwards of $4000 on then overpriced PowerPC equipment just a couple short years ago kept Apple in business during the previous decade when things looked bleak.
Show a little compassion Steve Jobs and fix Leopard for all supported Macs, NOT just the ones you currently sell! Is that really too much to ask? I don't think so.
Leopard is a bug-ridden dog on PowerPC Macs compared to Tiger and now Apple's answer to that is QUALITY and PERFORMANCE enhancements to INTEL-ONLY Macs? Ridiculous. I'm surprised there isn't already a class action lawsuit over this. The description alone of Snow Leopard almost sounds like an admission of guilt that Apple got it wrong the first go-round with Leopard!
Leopard has to be Steve Jobs' biggest reality distortion field con job yet and I've been using Apple products since 1983.
And yes, I own plenty of PowerPC Macs, and I don't feel that Leopard is a quality product even on my Dual 1.8 G5. We won't even get into how buggy Leopard is on an 867MHz Powermac G4 Quicksilver or my MDD, but yes, Apple certified Leopard to run on those machines. Why is it that my MDD Mac freezes inexplicably from time to time in Leopard or my G5 kernel panics when each of these machines runs flawlessly for months without a reboot in Tiger. Riddle me THAT Batman!
Sometimes I feel like its as if Apple barely even tested the PowerPC version of Leopard much and most of the bug fixes I see happening in each update appear to be more Intel-related and Snow Leopard only confirms my early suspicions.
I'm sure if Steve Jobs had his way, he'd have put a PowerPC chip in a coffin at last year's MacWorld. But, I'm sure the lawyers would have warned him Apple would see the mother of all lawsuits and public outrage.
Sure, the PC switchers, iPhone, & iPod sales are making the paychecks now for Apple now, but the people who spent upwards of $4000 on then overpriced PowerPC equipment just a couple short years ago kept Apple in business during the previous decade when things looked bleak.
Show a little compassion Steve Jobs and fix Leopard for all supported Macs, NOT just the ones you currently sell! Is that really too much to ask? I don't think so.
Hmmm? Then that would indicate Snow Leopard debuting in the Summer. Maybe it should be called Summer Leopard then?
AMEN!!!! The only person so far to TELL THE TRUTH about Apple and Power PC as King Jobs tries to erase history!!!!
Apple is getting rich off iPhone activations now...but one day that will go away and they'll be back to me with their tin cup and the answer will be NO!
+1 on that, at least for the workstations.
Although if Leopard Server continues to be the nightmare it is, I'll be grateful to wipe the entire thing and install Snow Leopard Server as soon as it's in my hands.
I am not as outraged as you or others are, but I see your main points. My comment on RELEASE of Leopard (you can search) is it would be buggy beyond usabilty. 10.5.0=crash test dummy. I said 10.5.1 would come out fast and have a bunch of bug fixes to the point it would actually run on most machines. Those statements both turned out to be true. I declared 10.5.2 would actually be suitable for some, but not many early adopters, and 10.5.3 would be the first family friendly release, but that grandma ought to wait for 10.5.4. All insightful. Now we have a DEVELOPER declaring 10.5.5 barely stable.
I personally use 10.4.11 and am exceedingly happy with it. I would really like Apple to form their own geek squad of perhaps 5 guys who go back to older OS versions and create software updates to bring them into compatibility with modern releases so older Macs, which really do run just fine still, can be used for application specific purposes in harmony with modern Macs.
Modern Macs are "better", but not in every way. Some things were really done better on older Macs and those applications and devices did not make the upgrade cycle through the variations of OSX. So I say, have a crew that deals with those issues. Go ahead and charge an upgrade fee for the benefits, like $19.95 or whatever. With all the Macs out there it would really work. It would discourage filling landfills with Macs for lack of continued software support.
On the good side, right now buying an Apple product is generally low risk. Not many landmines right now and you can use price and form factor as a pretty good proxy for your needs.
When 10.6.0 comes out, I remind you of my comments.
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Snow Leopard Release timeframe
Numerous websites have been reporting that Snow Leopard will be demoed at MacWord '09 in January, along with some benchmark speed comparison data. But it will not be released to the general public until later.
However, they also have stated that Apple is planning to release it BEFORE WWDC '09.
That may be the plan now, but plans for OS releases almost always seem to change. So who knows if it actually will be out before WWDC or not.
Steve said on stage at WWDC '08 that Snow Leopard would be out in about a year, so that could be before or after WWDC '09. A vague wide window.
I would expect a similar comment during MacWorld '09's demos. He'll probably say something like, "it will be out this summer."
The bigger question is how much will people that buy new Macs right now have to pay to upgrade? And if programs also need to be updated to take advantage of the new efficiencies, how much will those upgrades cost?
People who are looking to buy a new Mac soon will want to know those things.
Numerous websites have been reporting that Snow Leopard will be demoed at MacWord '09 in January, along with some benchmark speed comparison data. But it will not be released to the general public until later.
However, they also have stated that Apple is planning to release it BEFORE WWDC '09.
That may be the plan now, but plans for OS releases almost always seem to change. So who knows if it actually will be out before WWDC or not.
Steve said on stage at WWDC '08 that Snow Leopard would be out in about a year, so that could be before or after WWDC '09. A vague wide window.
I would expect a similar comment during MacWorld '09's demos. He'll probably say something like, "it will be out this summer."
The bigger question is how much will people that buy new Macs right now have to pay to upgrade? And if programs also need to be updated to take advantage of the new efficiencies, how much will those upgrades cost?
People who are looking to buy a new Mac soon will want to know those things.
I've seen a Snow Leopard Developer Preview (I think it is 10A96) floating around the net. Does someone know what changes did Apple do in this new version (10A190) from the last one. (Or first one)
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Just click on downloads and safari when you signup/login.
No major problems on my PPC old macs with Leopard. And it is natural Snow Leopard is Intel only after all these years and since it is about optimization having only a cpu to enach your software on is better.
