Apple Seeds 'Snow Leopard Graphics Update' to Developers

[sch8mid]

not sure if it's fair to make any assumption given that he has a different graphics chipset. best to wait until someone else with a 5670 and similar specs posts their results?



for what it's worth, i'm getting upper 4,000's on my Mac Pro (3,1 Octocore 2x2.8 w/ GTX 285)...with 10.6.3.

you may try OEV 3.3.1

and activate:

a. benchmark mode

b.AA 16

c.multisample 8

and post your results here .

would be interesting ...

best
s

 

[iWut]

I have a 13' Macbook Unibody with a 9400M, installed the iMac update and TF2 seems to run a bit better even reaching the status of 'playable' on low-res.

I'm getting the 10f2074 update (can't disclose where from), and will update with results and comparisons. Current GLview results with iMac's drivers (GeForceGLDriver 1.6.18.13 (19.5.7f07)) are:

--EDIT--

And I'm back, good news. The 10f274 drivers are: GeForceGLDriver 1.6.18.16 (19.5.9f02)
Not a much significant bump in version number, but..

And I'm proud to say that TF2 now is completely playable at 1280x800, as well as HL2 This is a major improvement for me.

If you want me to do any other benchmarks on the new driver, tell me

 

[jeanlain]

mmmhh... this means that Nvidia drivers have improved between the iMac update and the current Snow Leo graphics update. Or maybe you didn't install all the required files of the iMac update, since it can only be done via pacifist.

Anyway, that's nice to hear and it may explain the inconsistencies between improvements reported here with the 9400M.

EDIT: After all, and to be honest, my GLview FPS with the 9400M are better than yours with the stock 10.6.4 drivers and at 1440*900. Also, HL2 runs decently (30 fps) at med-high settings and native res with this card.
So...

 

[analog guy]

you may try OEV 3.3.1

and activate:

a. benchmark mode

b.AA 16

c.multisample 8

and post your results here .

would be interesting ...

best
s

i'm willing to do it. i can access benchmark mode, but i'm not sure where AA is, and multisample only goes up to 4 for me (in v3.31).

 

[analog guy]

I have a 13' Macbook Unibody with a 9400M, installed the iMac update and TF2 seems to run a bit better even reaching the status of 'playable' on low-res.

I'm getting the 10f2074 update (can't disclose where from), and will update with results and comparisons. Current GLview results with iMac's drivers (GeForceGLDriver 1.6.18.13 (19.5.7f07)) are:

--EDIT--

And I'm back, good news. The 10f274 drivers are: GeForceGLDriver 1.6.18.16 (19.5.9f02)
Not a much significant bump in version number, but..

And I'm proud to say that TF2 now is completely playable at 1280x800, as well as HL2 This is a major improvement for me.

If you want me to do any other benchmarks on the new driver, tell me

earlier in this thread (here), i posted results from my 13" unibody w/ 9400M. i was getting results in the low 500's from opengl extensions viewer running 10.6.4 stock and with the imac drivers (no change with the latter).

wonder why yours are so much lower?

i listed all the driver versions in that particular post.

 

[iWut]

earlier in this thread (here), i posted results from my 13" unibody w/ 9400M. i was getting results in the low 500's from opengl extensions viewer running 10.6.4 stock and with the imac drivers (no change with the latter).

wonder why yours are so much lower?

i listed all the driver versions in that particular post.

I certainly don't know - might be because mine's only 2.0GHz

 

[iWut]

mmmhh... this means that Nvidia drivers have improved between the iMac update and the current Snow Leo graphics update. Or maybe you didn't install all the required files of the iMac update, since it can only be done via pacifist.

Anyway, that's nice to hear and it may explain the inconsistencies between improvements reported here with the 9400M.

EDIT: After all, and to be honest, my GLview FPS with the 9400M are better than yours with the stock 10.6.4 drivers and at 1440*900. Also, HL2 runs decently (30 fps) at med-high settings and native res with this card.
So...

I actually installed the whole Extensions folder (you can boot a Macbook from an iMac drive and it would work anyway so I didn't see how overwriting the extensions could make any harm)...

 

[sch8mid]

i'm willing to do it. i can access benchmark mode, but i'm not sure where AA is, and multisample only goes up to 4 for me (in v3.31).

Sorry its called
multisample tick the checkbox and move the slider to the right position...

ansisotropy tick the checkbox and move the slider to the right position...

and tick benchmark checkbox

now the frames are interesting : with a 577O you get only a fraction of the frames in this mode (3.3.1)
compared to older versions of OEV.

thanx

 

[analog guy]

Sorry its called
multisample tick the checkbox and move the slider to the right position...

ansisotropy tick the checkbox and move the slider to the right position...

and tick benchmark checkbox

now the frames are interesting : with a 577O you get only a fraction of the frames in this mode (3.3.1)
compared to older versions of OEV.

thanx

multisample =4 is the max in my version.
anistropy = 16
benchmark checked.

got about 1/15th to 1/20th of the results vs just the standard mode.

 

[sch8mid]

yes ..same here

 

[SDMacFTW]

What a vague article...I wonder how artists will benefit in 3D content creation apps like Maya...nothing worse than a choppy viewport rotation.

 

[ChuckBlack]

Here's a tip for finding the Snow Leopard Graphics Update.

The files HASH is...

648D617AEB25D6548B5FC8DE2F2BC89CA9F5D22C

EDIT:

After having tried the iMac extensions and now the Snow Leopard Graphics Update without any change whatsoever in my GLview scores, I can safely say that my next step is flashing a PC 5870 when the proper ROM gets released.

2008 Mac Pro, 2x4-2.8ghz, 8800GT

 

[jeanlain]

GLview is not a real-world test. I wouldn't base my decisions on its results.

 

[Sambo110]

Can't wait for this update to come out, looking forward to seeing how it improves my iMac's 2400 HD.

 

[sch8mid]

GLview is not a real-world test. I wouldn't base my decisions on its results.

right :

we have
OEV -Cinebench-SmalluxGPU -FPSBench-XBench

in none of these benches besides "Smalluxgpu "(OpenCL) the 5770 with the current driverset is able to outperform my 4 year old 3870 at the moment. And this is not the way it meant to be , isn`t it ?

I hope Apple joins with ATI to deliver the same astonishing performance with this card , we see in Win7.

 

[Marucins]

thanks **ChuckBlack**

//edit

non... same sh.t

10.6.4 + driver 10F2074 (fix)

Ms x4 / Ani x16

 

[bobbytomorow]

I installed 10f274 SL gfx update and it didn't make a lick of difference. Results in openGL viewer remained identical across the board for both 9400 and 9600

 

[sch8mid]

same here

 

[bobbytomorow]

yeah kinda a let down

anyone interest in seeing the results,

these are pre-10f274 update

9400

9600

and these are post-10f274 update

9400

9600

 

[Dookieman]

From what I have seen, there is an improvement in real time. Starcraft 2 now doesn't crash due to driver issues, and some setting can be bummed up and retain FPS.

 

[Secutor]

hey guys
here we go with a Radeon 2600HD 256MB and iMac 7.1 with 2.4Ghz Core2Duo

 

[Bootliner]

hey guys
here we go with a Radeon 2600HD 256MB and iMac 7.1 with 2.4Ghz Core2Duo

OMG, this looks truly amazing! I have the exact same computer as you do. Are you a developer or did you install it via the leaked kext:s? I tried, but my computer crashed, so had to reinstall osx (no worries though, everything was exactly the same as before, even the wallpaper and all settings). How did you do?

 

[macintoshtoffy]

hey guys
here we go with a Radeon 2600HD 256MB and iMac 7.1 with 2.4Ghz Core2Duo

Holy sh-t balls! thats almost a doubling of the score - I assume we're talking about the Radeon 2600 that appeared in the 20inch iMac (Core 2 2.66Ghz) model? damn, I'd love to see the improvements when it comes to 9400M and how that impacts not only games but on Core Animation, Safari 5 and the IE9 tests.

 

[Bootliner]

Holy sh-t balls! thats almost a doubling of the score - I assume we're talking about the Radeon 2600 that appeared in the 20inch iMac (Core 2 2.66Ghz) model? damn, I'd love to see the improvements when it comes to 9400M and how that impacts not only games but on Core Animation, Safari 5 and the IE9 tests.

Yeap, his configs is exactly as mine, imac 7,1 20" with 2,4 ghz and ati radeon HD 2600 pro. So i'm really curious testing this myself. i have the snow_leopard_graphics_update_10f2074.dmg, do i dare to use it or will it crash my computer again?

 

[macintoshtoffy]

Yeap, his configs is exactly as mine, imac 7,1 20" with 2,4 ghz and ati radeon HD 2600 pro. So i'm really curious testing this myself. i have the snow_leopard_graphics_update_10f2074.dmg, do i dare to use it or will it crash my computer again?

I don't think that is the latest version - is it? I remember someone talking about another 2 releases since the original story broke on page 1 news. I'm tempted to give it ago but I've got study and so forth so I really can't afford to have my system down - hopefully we'll see a shipment in the next 2-3 weeks if we're lucky

It is good that Apple has responded given that more software are taking advantage of OpenGL/Core Animation/Core Graphics etc. with their software; Firefox 4.0 is using OpenGL, Safari is taking advantage of Core Animation whilst opening it up to Flash taking advantage of Core Animation via the plugin infrastructure - then there is the rise of gaming on the Mac with Steam appearing. Hopefully all these things occur have pushed Graphics performance and reliability further up the triage list than it were in the past.