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Apple Seeds Third Beta of iOS 11.4 to Developers [Public Beta Available]

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Apple today seeded the third beta of an upcoming iOS 11.4 update to developers, two weeks after seeding the second beta and over a month after releasing iOS 11.3, a major update that introduced several new features.

Registered developers can download the new iOS 11.4 beta from Apple's Developer Center or over-the-air once the proper configuration profile has been installed from the Developer Center.


The iOS 11.4 update introduces a new ClassKit framework for educational institutions, which supports new features announced at Apple's March 27 event.

For standard users, the iOS 11.4 update adds features that were originally present in the iOS 11.3 beta but removed ahead of release. It includes support for Messages on iCloud, designed to store your iMessages in iCloud rather than on each individual device, allowing for improved syncing capabilities. Currently, incoming iMessages are sent to all devices where you're signed in to your Apple ID, but there is no true cross-device syncing.

Messages on iCloud will allow you to download all of your iMessages on new devices, and a message deleted on one device will remove it on all devices. Older messages and attachments are also stored in iCloud rather than on-device, saving valuable storage space.

The update also offers AirPlay 2 features, with the Apple TV once again available in the Home app. With AirPlay 2, the same audio content can be played in multiple rooms on devices that support AirPlay 2, such as HomePod. Speaking of HomePod, there were initially signs of support for stereo sound, a long-promised feature, but stereo sound never worked in the beta and the mention was removed in beta 2.

For the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus, there is a new (PRODUCT)RED wallpaper available, which is not available on iPhone X.

iOS 11.3, the previous update to iOS 11, introduced a new Battery Health feature for monitoring the status of your iPhone's battery, Business Chat for iMessage, which lets you communicate with companies directly in the Messages app, ARKit 1.5 with augmented reality improvements, new Animoji on iPhone X, Health Records from participating medical providers, and more.

Update: Apple has made a new public beta of iOS 11.4 available to its public beta testing group.

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gaximus

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Does the Apple TV also have to be on 11.4 for it to show up in HomeKit?
 

icanhazapple

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"Speaking of HomePod, there were initially signs of support for stereo sound, a long-promised feature, but stereo sound never worked in the beta and the mention was removed in beta 2."

So audio out from an Apple TV is the only way to output stereo sound to a device? How are we supposed to output audio from HDMI to a regular speaker?
 

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"Speaking of HomePod, there were initially signs of support for stereo sound, a long-promised feature, but stereo sound never worked in the beta and the mention was removed in beta 2."

So audio out from an Apple TV is the only way to output stereo sound to a device? How are we supposed to output audio from HDMI to a regular speaker?

I don't think this question makes sense. What "device" do you refer to?
 

icanhazapple

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I don't think this question makes sense. What "device" do you refer to?

Apple TV, which is the only other device besides the Homepod to support Airplay 2. I don't want to buy a Homepod, I want to use the speakers I already have. Except the only output A/V port from an Apple TV is HDMI. That's a problem for people who are looking to use their existing speakers with Airplay 2 and do not want to purchase a Homepod.

I would love for Apple to make a cheap dongle, like the Google Chromecast Audio (https://store.google.com/us/product/chromecast_audio?hl=en-US), so that multiple speakers in different rooms can play the same audio.

But I'm guessing Apple doesn't have the talent to get Airplay 2 working or build a device like this. It's horrendous at this point.
 

cmaier

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Apple TV, which is the only other device besides the Homepod to support Airplay 2. I don't want to buy a Homepod, I want to use the speakers I already have. Except the only output A/V port from an Apple TV is HDMI. That's a problem for people who are looking to use their existing speakers with Airplay 2 and do not want to purchase a Homepod.

I would love for Apple to make a cheap dongle, like the Google Chromecast Audio (https://store.google.com/us/product/chromecast_audio?hl=en-US), so that multiple speakers in different rooms can play the same audio.

But I'm guessing Apple doesn't have the talent to get Airplay 2 working or build a device like this. It's horrendous at this point.

So you are just asking how to connect HDMI to regular speakers? The same way it's always been done. Either output HDMI into a receiver, or into a TV with audio outs.
 

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I would love for Apple to make a cheap dongle, like the Google Chromecast Audio (https://store.google.com/us/product/chromecast_audio?hl=en-US), so that multiple speakers in different rooms can play the same audio.

That cheap dongle you are looking for exists: it's called Airport Express, you can buy the old gen on eBay for less than $20 (I got one for $10), plug an optical cable into it ($5) and to your speakers and boom you now have Airplay compatible speakers.
 

Michael Goff

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Ugh. WTheF? Why can't Apple with their thousands and thousands of employees get Airplay 2 working? Do they need to build another spaceship to double their workforce.

Yes Apple, I'm waiting. Patiently. Somewhat.

More workers wouldn’t fix the problem unless you’re saying they understaffed the project to begin with. And I doubt they did.
 

Michael Goff

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Surely the problems which have came up are not scalable in regards to workforce. But I also believe the overall complexity was underestimated or not foreseen.

Yep. They probably thought this was going to be way easier than it has been. And now they’re paying for their hubris.
 
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Lax608

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That cheap dongle you are looking for exists: it's called Airport Express, you can buy the old gen on eBay for less than $20 (I got one for $10), plug an optical cable into it ($5) and to your speakers and boom you now have Airplay compatible speakers.

Do we know Airplay 2 is coming to the AirPort Express?
 

zantafio

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Do we know Airplay 2 is coming to the AirPort Express?

I believe, but correct me if I am wrong, that Airplay 2 matters only on the transmitter point, the device that broadcasts the audio, and the receiver points, the speakers, only need to be Airplay.
 
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Lax608

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I believe, but correct me if I am wrong, that Airplay 2 matters only on the transmitter point, the device that broadcasts the audio, and the receiver points, the speakers, only need to be Airplay.

Right. But it sounded like he was looking for something like a Google Chromecast (AirPort Express) to stearm music to. I would assume that the device (AirPort Express) is connected to a non Airplay type of receiver. In this scenario, the AirPort Express would need to be updated to be compatible with Airplay 2.
 
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ctg7w6

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Does cloud iMessages include regular text messages? Those are the ones I really want synced because I get lots of them from like UPS and USPS and stuff, but I hate having to delete them from all devices AND unlike iMessages, they appear as unread on every device until you open them on every device. Very annoying. So, does cloud iMessages fix this? (And yes I realize it’s called iMessages cloud)
 

Mr$tone

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Does cloud iMessages include regular text messages? Those are the ones I really want synced because I get lots of them from like UPS and USPS and stuff, but I hate having to delete them from all devices AND unlike iMessages, they appear as unread on every device until you open them on every device. Very annoying. So, does cloud iMessages fix this? (And yes I realize it’s called iMessages cloud)
Yes, messages in iCloud handles this perfectly.
 
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