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Ita safe to say beta 3 is a let down and still makes massive problems guys just use ios 10.3.3 beta 6 which is GM no point having a laggy phone for no reason

Shouldn't be a problem as all using the developer betas agree to install it only on testing devices and not their everyday personal devices. Failure to do so is a violation of the Developer TOS.
 
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I have 6 Apps that get this message and will not install. This started with beta 1.

You've already purchased this, so it will be downloaded now at not additional charge.
 
Shouldn't be a problem as all using the developer betas agree to install it only on testing devices and not their everyday personal devices. Failure to do so is a violation of the Developer TOS.
Just curious. What is the TOS for Public Beta? Which I believe is already started and there seems to be a lot of issues for a Public Beta.
 
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DIRECTV NOW still does not work. I assume it is the App but with all the Public Beta Testers you would think AT&T would fix the issue.
Remember, they can't post iOS 11 specific apps in the store until the release in the fall. They can try to make iOS 10 fixes now, but can't guarantee that will fix it.
 
Am i the only one who thinks that this looks like crap? I hope this isn't the final design.
 

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Shouldn't be a problem as all using the developer betas agree to install it only on testing devices and not their everyday personal devices. Failure to do so is a violation of the Developer TOS.

I don't think you got that right. If your testing device is also your main one? Then what?
 
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Just curious. What is the TOS for Public Beta? Which I believe is already started and there seems to be a lot of issues for a Public Beta.

There hasn't been a public beta of iOS 11 yet. The public beta terms are similar. Expect there to be bugs and don't install it on your daily-use devices.

Far too few understand what beta means. It means there will be bugs and other issues. They also expect every bug to be resolved with each new release. That's not how OS software development usually works in the beta stages.
 
Just curious. What is the TOS for Public Beta? Which I believe is already started and there seems to be a lot of issues for a Public Beta.

Public beta is the same as the Developer build (albeit a number behind; Dev Beta 3 is Public Beta 2, etc), so just ignore the post you quoted; it was neither helpful nor required.

We all know that these betas are supposed to be used on test devices, and for developers that's the case. They're testing their apps, whereas we (the public) are more the bug finders and reporters.
 
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No there isn't.

Back to the beta, I'm hearing a lot of anger from some beta users (especially public beta users) that their phones and apps don't work. This is a beta. Things will not work. That's the point of a beta. If you can't handle a beta, don't install it - especially not on a primary device.
If I could dislike this, I would
 
I don't think you got that right. If your testing device is also your main one? Then what?

The beta agreement makes it very clear that your main device should not be the device you use for testing.

In fact, they put this in big letters right above the developer agreement before you agree to the terms:

Please keep in mind that you should not install beta software on production or business-critical systems. We strongly recommend installing beta software on a secondary system or device, or on a secondary partition on your Mac.

Then there's an entire section within the agreement on precautions around the pre-release software.

7. Precautions for the use of Pre-Release Software. You understand that to participate in seeds of Pre-Release Software you may need to remove certain pre-loaded, commercial Apple software from your computer and/or device in order to load the Pre-Release Software. You further understand that once you load such Pre-Release Software onto your computer and/or device, you may be unable to revert back to the pre-loaded, commercial release of the Apple software you were using prior to loading the Pre-Release Software or any earlier release of the Pre-Release Software. In addition, applications and services you have installed or been using may be unable to run or function in the same manner because of your use of the Pre-Release Software. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BY INSTALLING SUCH PRE-RELEASE SOFTWARE ON YOUR APPLE-BRANDED COMPUTERS AND/OR DEVICES, THESE COMPUTERS AND DEVICES MAY NOT BE CAPABLE OF BEING RESTORED TO THEIR ORIGINAL CONDITION AND THAT APPLICATIONS AND SERVICES MAY BE AFFECTED BY YOUR USE OF PRE-RELEASE SOFTWARE. FURTHER, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT DATA (INCLUDING DOCUMENTS) FROM SUCH APPLICATIONS OR SERVICES THAT YOU CREATE OR CHANGE WHILE USING THE PRE-RELEASE SOFTWARE MAY BE INCAPABLE OF BEING RESTORED OR RECOVERED. APPLE SHALL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY COSTS, EXPENSES OR OTHER LIABILITIES YOU MAY INCUR AS A RESULT OF YOUR TESTING, INSTALLATION OR USE OF PRE-RELEASE SOFTWARE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY DAMAGE TO ANY EQUIPMENT, SOFTWARE OR DATA OR ANY LOSS OF DATA OR INFORMATION ARISING FROM YOUR USE OF SUCH PRE-RELEASE SOFTWARE. In addition, the Pre-Release Software may contain errors or inaccuracies that could cause failures, corruption or loss of data and/or information from your computer and/or device or from your peripherals (including, without limitation, servers and printers) connected thereto. Apple strongly encourages you to back-up all data and information on your computer, devices and/or any peripherals prior to your participation in the Beta Program and before any individual seeds. The Pre-Release Software is not intended for use, and should not be used, in production or business-critical systems.
 
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The beta agreement makes it very clear that your main device should not be the device you use for testing.

In fact, they put this in big letters right above the developer agreement before you agree to the terms:



Then there's an entire section within the agreement on precautions around the pre-release software.

I don't see any prohibition, it's just a recommendation.
 
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