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Such a bold statement especially when its not true for everyone. Ive been using all of the High Sierra betas so far and all have been extremely stable and any bugs have been so minor I haven't even noticed them.
I have this on a 2013 6c Mac Pro, 2015 iMac i7, 2012 iMac i7, 2016 MBPtb, 2015 rMB, 2012 MacMini i7, 2014 MacMini i5 testing and stable is nowhere near the word I would personally use across any of these. I have 25 more to test across later but I can not say I have had 3 days in a row where anything was stable other than possibly just looking at the desktop wallpaper and on two machines they have crashed when just doing this.
 
Unfortunately it seems my Mac doesn't have the disk space to download the new beta to fix the APFS space concern. Going to have to try and find a way to get the new beta onto an external drive. Anyone have any ideas?

Anyone know how to clear up space in beta 2 with APFS storage bug? I just need 2GB of free space.

I had this bug in beta 2 as well. Unfortunately, getting the necessary free space is a pain because of that storage deletion bug. What I did was make a backup of my internal drive onto an external via Carbon Copy Cloner, make a USB-bootable version of High Sierra onto a thumb drive I had lying around, wiped my internal drive and reformatted to HFS+, re-installed High Sierra via the thumb drive, and finally, restore from the CCC backup. It's a very tedious process, but it will fix that storage issue so you can then install beta 3 (where it is officially fixed).
 
I have this one a 2013 6c Mac Pro, 2015 iMac i7, 2012 iMac i7, 2016 MBPtb, 2015 rMB, 2012 MacMini i7, 2014 MacMini i5 testing and stable is nowhere near the word I would personally use across any of these. I have 25 more to test across later but I can not say I have had 3 days in a row where anything was stable other than possibly just looking at the desktop wallpaper and on two machines they have crashed when just doing this.
Stable is not the would I would use to describe it either. This crash happened for me just yesterday, and WindowServer must've crashed at least twice for me in beta 2.
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I have this on a 2013 6c Mac Pro, 2015 iMac i7, 2012 iMac i7, 2016 MBPtb, 2015 rMB, 2012 MacMini i7, 2014 MacMini i5 testing and stable is nowhere near the word I would personally use across any of these. I have 25 more to test across later but I can not say I have had 3 days in a row where anything was stable other than possibly just looking at the desktop wallpaper and on two machines they have crashed when just doing this.


And like I said I've experienced the opposite, running on a 2015 rMBP
 
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I had this bug in beta 2 as well. Unfortunately, getting the necessary free space is a pain because of that storage deletion bug. What I did was make a backup of my internal drive onto an external via Carbon Copy Cloner, make a USB-bootable version of High Sierra onto a thumb drive I had lying around, wiped my internal drive and reformatted to HFS+, re-installed High Sierra via the thumb drive, and finally, restore from the CCC backup. It's a very tedious process, but it will fix that storage issue so you can then install beta 3 (where it is officially fixed).
there a reason that you made a back up with CCC rather than Time Machine?
 
Stable is not the would I would use to describe it either. This crash happened for me just yesterday, and WindowServer must've crashed at least twice for me in beta 2.
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This is one of the few developer previews at least the last 6 years where 'it seems' that I spend more time on the machine reporting bugs than actual work.

A lot of the issues are somewhat based around RAM issues. Primarily where non-stock RAM machiens that have been running 100% rock solid day in and day out are now panicking and crashing every 20-30 hours.
 
I had this bug in beta 2 as well. Unfortunately, getting the necessary free space is a pain because of that storage deletion bug. What I did was make a backup of my internal drive onto an external via Carbon Copy Cloner, make a USB-bootable version of High Sierra onto a thumb drive I had lying around, wiped my internal drive and reformatted to HFS+, re-installed High Sierra via the thumb drive, and finally, restore from the CCC backup. It's a very tedious process, but it will fix that storage issue so you can then install beta 3 (where it is officially fixed).

There must be an easier fix, I have the issue now, can't install, but I will try to find where my space is.

Edit: There is an easier fix, I have 2 Macs, on one of them I downloaded the updates, before Software Update asks you to install the Update, copy MacOSUpd10.13RecoveryHDUpdate.pkg over from the one Mac to the other Mac, it's located in /Library/Updates.
Double click the installer, it should install, next restart in Recovery mode, it should now have the newer High Sierra Installer, did it on mine, worked.

Is there a reason that you made a back up with CCC rather than Time Machine?


More control.
 
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This is one of the few developer previews at least the last 6 years where 'it seems' that I spend more time on the machine reporting bugs than actual work.

A lot of the issues are somewhat based around RAM issues. Primarily where non-stock RAM machiens that have been running 100% rock solid day in and day out are now panicking and crashing every 20-30 hours.

Absolutely. I can't use it on my machine. I've often reconsidered reverting to my backup. Waiting for this new build to see though. My biggest issues on a MBP are:

1) 10 minute wait on the boot screen with the apple logo (every @#@#@ time)
2) Crashes when lid is closed but will sleep fine if lid is left open
3) Seems to pause every few minutes
4) Battery got warm and had a red indicator menu bar last night. Despite just wanting it to sleep, it drained the battery.
5) XProtect bug wants to check every file I open

And that's just the start. Every other OS beta they've released was more stable that this for me. . To me it seems they've started over again but my question is why? Shouldn't they just be polishing the latest Sierra code which had some of these bugs worked out rather than start from a whole new codebase? Some of the errors (like the Xprotect one) were present in every early beta.
 
There must be an easier fix, I have the issue now, can't install, but I will try to find where my space is.




More control.

I deleted a ton of apps that didn't seem to make my available storage budge at all in System Information, in fact it continued to shrink!

Ultimately, I spammed the update button in the App Store until eventually the Restarting in 60 seconds prompt popped instead of the "You don't have enough storage" prompt. I think I just happened to catch it at a time when the system read enough free space available. Now I'm back to 50GB available and system is only taking the 7-10GB of space that it should be. Oddly, it still shows 50GB on the Manage Storage screen, but that can't be right. Must still be fixing itself as Time Machine makes a backup and clears out the local one.

Edit: I believe my final theory is right, as the size in Manage Storage is decreasing as the Time Machine backup completes. Now down to 48GB.
 
I have this on a 2013 6c Mac Pro, 2015 iMac i7, 2012 iMac i7, 2016 MBPtb, 2015 rMB, 2012 MacMini i7, 2014 MacMini i5 testing and stable is nowhere near the word I would personally use across any of these. I have 25 more to test across later but I can not say I have had 3 days in a row where anything was stable other than possibly just looking at the desktop wallpaper and on two machines they have crashed when just doing this.

Haven't had a single problem.
 
Time Machine still gives an error stating "Time Machine could not create a local snapshot to back up from"

It's working fine now on my 2015 MBP 13". It's creating an all-new back up though and going pretty slow. Currently at 6GB of around 50.
 
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I deleted a ton of apps that didn't seem to make my available storage budge at all in System Information, in fact it continued to shrink!

Ultimately, I spammed the update button in the App Store until eventually the Restarting in 60 seconds prompt popped instead of the "You don't have enough storage" prompt. I think I just happened to catch it at a time when the system read enough free space available. Now I'm back to 50GB available and system is only taking the 7-10GB of space that it should be. Oddly, it still shows 50GB on the Manage Storage screen, but that can't be right. Must still be fixing itself as Time Machine makes a backup and clears out the local one.

Edit: I believe my final theory is right, as the size in Manage Storage is decreasing as the Time Machine backup completes. Now down to 48GB.

Thanks for the idea. I've deleted something that was large enough to clean up the space and then immediately pressed the update button. Waiting for the download to finish...

Update: It WORKED! Thank you @blasto2236
 
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Unfortunately it seems my Mac doesn't have the disk space to download the new beta to fix the APFS space concern. Going to have to try and find a way to get the new beta onto an external drive. Anyone have any ideas?
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there a reason that you made a back up with CCC rather than Time Machine?
Yep! Time Machine is at fault for that bug in the first place, and it was outright disabled in the Public Beta/Dev Beta 2 Update 1. But it seems as though it has been re-enabled from some of the comments ITT.
 
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Following an update to beta 3, iTunes 12.7 is also available....since I didn't check before updating, cannot confirm if it is also available without the update


In my install of B3 - iTunes is actually listed as v12.6.1.25

And i too am being offered an install to v12.7
 
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