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Apple Seeds Third Beta of tvOS 9.2 to Developers
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ATV2 and ATV3 both supported bluetooth keyboards. It's obvious that there was an issue with including it when the ATV4 was ready to roll, and they decided that it was a minor enough feature to let it wait until later updates. For that, as a very satisfied ATV4 user I am happy.
Don't think anyone is claiming that their providing support for the keyboard is a big deal. Certainly not me. In fact I could care less if they never provided said support. It's frankly a dumb feature. I have no desire to keep a keyboard hanging around in my living room all the time for the once in a blue moon that I might need to type something. Dictation from the remote, on the other hand is pretty cool, and will come in handy.
It's a completely reinvented version of the ATV. New hardware, new software, new challenges to release. Just like the move from the ATV1 to the ATV2 was a complete change in the platform, and required things to be re-thought and redesigned, such is the case between the ATV2/ATV3/ATV3a and the ATV4. Are you able to comprehend that?
Great sales is a fact. Look it up.
You got that right. Thank goodness for small miracles.
Sound to me like you are getting hot and bothered...., again..
Not at all. The ignorance displayed in your posts is actually an amusing distraction to my day.
It wouldn't be too massive. Just create a API that the apps would have to use, and leave it up the the App developers to implement.
There are several apps with the "Live TV" feature. It would be great to be able to see whats "now playing" without having to go into each app and then into the "Live" section/tab. It would be nice to have one place to view what was currently showing on all apps that you've downloaded that support live viewing.
All of these improvements to search on the ATV4 seem moot until they let it index and search Home Share libraries. 95% of the media I consume via ATV are on the computer in my house. Why the **** would I want to stream something over the internet that's sitting on a hard drive in my office?
The news about Bluetooth being added is complete ********. When I bought the unit, I called Apple to ask why I can't pair my Bluetooth keyboard with it and was told it only supports Bluetooth 4 (which doesn't even exist!) A total line of ******** from Apple yet again so they can push their crap out to market before it is merchantable. All for more money. Put out crap, lie to customers' faces, and hope no one notices.
a bunch of ******s.
a bunch of ******s.
Sure it does.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_v4.0
I don't follow. They never advertised tv 4 to have Bluetooth keyboard support, so you bought a product based on an expectation that you didn't verify. Now they're adding it as a free update a few months later, and that's somehow not good either?
Um... It does... It's often referred to as Bluetooth LE (low energy), so maybe that's what confused you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_v4.0
Edit: Dude right above me beat me by one second.
Mapkit!
I was wondering why weather radar apps for TVOS were so conspicuously few and far between. There are a couple, but not many. Most apps probably require Mapkit to create the radar images, layering radar data on top of in-house maps. So, more radar and weather apps should be forthcoming in the near future.
I was wondering why weather radar apps for TVOS were so conspicuously few and far between. There are a couple, but not many. Most apps probably require Mapkit to create the radar images, layering radar data on top of in-house maps. So, more radar and weather apps should be forthcoming in the near future.
I don't think it would be very hard. It's essentially just a show-specific RSS feed, which filters into a unified stream.
What with the best device ever of it's type...? As per your say-so? I don't care how much you love the device, that was not what my post was about. It is so sad watching you get upset by the fact I am not satisfied.
I was stating that it should have been so out of the box and is a bit 'johnny come lately'. You telling me otherwise and that it is "dumb" does not mean you are right. I am glad Apple do not agree with you, like many others on this forum. I am also glad you like to speak into your hand, I prefer more productive sources of input.
I comprehend just fine, you still seem to not be. As it (or you) still does not answer my original post and point as to why it did not have BT keyboard support out of the box. Was it that hard to work out before they released it? Also if it were such an unwanted and unused feature as you claim, why is it here now?
So what? I bought one and think it is less that the perfect device you appear to think it is, so what is your point?
Oh dear..., as I said. You are getting hot and bothered again.
Ditto.
I do not really have the time for your usual blind Apple fanatic Strawman arguments, that I usually get to watch you have with others. You like to jump on posts with your over opinionated versions of reality and think you can get away with it without reply.
Good luck with that.
You're going to get a lot of responses because of how misinformed you sound here.
Wow, it would appear that you are, in fact that one getting hot and bothered. LOL
It's not a "blind Apple fanatic Strawman argument." It's the cool and levelheaded opinion of a consumer who took the time to do the research on the product he was buying before he bought it, and got exactly what he expected. Not the snarky rants of someone who bought something they apparently knew little about, and then decided to throw darts from the sidelines, instead of having the common sense to return the product that they didn't like.
You also seem to have a bit of a problem comprehending what I wrote. You started out with some diatribe about how the keyboard should have been included on release. You're right. Every feature that you want should have been included at launch.
(That was sarcasm, in case you don't get it) Fact is, it was a minor feature that Apple apparently did not have the ability to ready for release at the time the device launched, so they decided to include it later. As I said, I am happy that they did so, because that means I didn't have to wait months to have a great device in my living room for a feature that I don't want or need. But I'm sure they could have released BT keyboard support at launch if they just weren't so intent on making you angry. If you want the feature I am glad that you'll have it now. That doesn't mean that I don't still think it's a pretty dumb and relatively useless feature.
I'm not sure where in my posts you thought I said that this is the perfect device. To clarify (try to follow along now) what I believe is that this is the best ATV that Apple has ever made, that it finally shows the promise of evolving into a fantastic home entertainment/streaming device that I have been wanting since the first Apple TV came out, and that overall it's the best streaming device on the market for someone who uses the Apple ecosystem.
Certainly it could use some improvement, and it's getting plenty of love in that regard. From Apple and from developers. I look forward to those improvements, because they will make it even better. But I maintain that it was a great device when it was released, and well worth the upgrade from the previous model.
As far as "more productive sources of input" I laugh. Do you really think you can type faster than I can talk? I mean, after you have searched around the living room and found the keyboard? Because if you do you're pretty delusional.
Overall Iam happy enough with ATv4 if the would just fix the photo app so it doesn't repeat its self quite so often
You must be quite the wizard if you're able to do that. You're guessing. That's all.
That's because it wasn't. The number of features that the old AppleTV had that weren't working in this model was a little bit cRaZy, IMHO. No BT keyboard options, no remote app, no podcast app and I'm sure more things than I can think of at the moment. I still feel like the apps store isn't ready...
I don't know if I've ever had a product feel not so ready.
I'm guessing they wanted to prevent holiday shoppers from getting some other kind of media player.
Gary
What I would like to see is more options on how the device handles audio streams. At the moment it seems like it doesn't do audio pass through. Also, for some reason I can't get Dolby Digital (or any other surround format) out of it by connecting it directly to my Onkyo AVR (TX-SR444), but things work if I connect the AppleTV to my television and then send the audio from the TV to the AVR by an optical cable. This means I can't for example run Dolby Atmos content on the Apple TV.
I also don't quite understand, why Siri needs to be linked to the Store location. I'm fine with communicating with Siri in English (my 1st language is Finnish) and things work just fine with my iPhone and Siri. Even dictation in Finnish works great. So I'm not quite understanding, what's taking so long bringing the feature to TV OS. The TV really relies on Siri. It's a horrible user experience entering passwords on the remote –– and yes, I can of course pick up my phone and use the Remote app, but it would be so much easier to just use the remote.
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Oh yes, and the lip sync problem as well. I hate to rent a movie on iTunes just to realize the video and audio won't stay in sync.
I also don't quite understand, why Siri needs to be linked to the Store location. I'm fine with communicating with Siri in English (my 1st language is Finnish) and things work just fine with my iPhone and Siri. Even dictation in Finnish works great. So I'm not quite understanding, what's taking so long bringing the feature to TV OS. The TV really relies on Siri. It's a horrible user experience entering passwords on the remote –– and yes, I can of course pick up my phone and use the Remote app, but it would be so much easier to just use the remote.
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Oh yes, and the lip sync problem as well. I hate to rent a movie on iTunes just to realize the video and audio won't stay in sync.
I am not sure Apple Siri knows you are entering a password, a search item, etc when using dictation for security reasons. Entering a password in Apple TV would not require Siri to know what the dictation request is for, just translate and return, as an example. Once Apple TV received the go or enter command, the password then sent to wherever. Siri dictation would be totally blind as to the purpose of the request.
No data is sent to Apple for Spelling dictation (i.e. usernames & passwords). It all happens locally. Also, you are not required to dictate your passwords.