Apple Seeds Third Beta of tvOS 9.2 to Developers

[bpeeps]

So elaborate and explain why it is a silly question. Otherwise it's valid.

It's already been done.

 

[WallyMan]

All data is sent to Apple when using Dictation. Nothing is done locally.

This is incorrect for Apple TV. Spelling dictation data is not sent to Apple and is all done locally. Try it for yourself, disconnect from your Wifi network or pull your ethernet cable and try dictating a username or password, it'll work

 

[StevenWalker]

This is incorrect for Apple TV.......dictation data is not sent to Apple and is all done locally.

Just a shame Apple don't agree with you

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[SimonTheSoundMa]

Dictation! Finally! No more one letter at a time, Thanks Apple!

....only fix now is the super sensitive remote that fast forwards an hour ahead when I barely touch the remote

It's the fast forwarding an hour when you pick the remote up or when it is on the arm of the sofa and you touch it with your elbow that really bugs me!
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Don't think anyone is claiming that their providing support for the keyboard is a big deal. Certainly not me. In fact I could care less if they never provided said support. It's frankly a dumb feature. I have no desire to keep a keyboard hanging around in my living room all the time for the once in a blue moon that I might need to type something. Dictation from the remote, on the other hand is pretty cool, and will come in handy.

So, it is a feature you really, really want then!

 

[GeneralChang]

All data is sent to Apple when using Dictation. Nothing is done locally.

So, I use dictation on my Mac fairly regularly. It's all processed locally. While I know that's not the case for dictation on iOS, I don't see why it's so outside the realm of possibility for tvOS, at least for individual letter processing (which is far simpler than full sentences).

Of course there's no Apple support topic on this yet, since it's still in beta. But I'll keep looking and post back if I find anything concrete.
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So, it is a feature you really, really want then!

"Could care less" means that they care at least a little bit, not necessarily that they care a lot.

 

[chucker23n1]

So, I use dictation on my Mac fairly regularly. It's all processed locally.

Only if you have "Use Enhanced Dictation" checked.

While I know that's not the case for dictation on iOS, I don't see why it's so outside the realm of possibility for tvOS, at least for individual letter processing (which is far simpler than full sentences).

That's neither here nor there — Apple's marketing material is rather clear-cut. Now, it's possible their marketing incorrectly copied information from iOS, but it's just as possible (and more likely) that, just like with iOS, tvOS Dictation is not available offline.

 

[GeneralChang]

That's neither here nor there — Apple's marketing material is rather clear-cut. Now, it's possible their marketing incorrectly copied information from iOS, but it's just as possible (and more likely) that, just like with iOS, tvOS Dictation is not available offline.

Looking at the material thus far presented for dictation on tvOS, it is almost directly copied from iOS. So, as I said, it's difficult to have concrete evidence on the matter since it was just barely released in beta. We'll just have to keep a look out.

That being said, while you're of the opinion that it's more likely dictation for password fields will act just like iOS, I'm of the opinion that Apple hasn't done anything to make us think they'd be that mindless as far as an obvious security risk is concerned. If a bunch of random folks on a forum can think of it within minutes of hearing about it, you can bet that the people who have been designing it for months thought of it too. So I think it far more likely that they'll provide the necessary logic to process single letters onboard the Apple TV, and that no password-field related information will be sent to their servers.

It seems like a highly logical solution, and Apple set the precedent in Mac OS when they implemented enhanced dictation. I've got no reason thus far to think otherwise.

 

[bergert]

Have you tried Plex?

have you tried to play purchased content in Plex ?

 

[rdlink]

have you tried to play purchased content in Plex ?

Yep. I have not been able to get DRM content to work. So I stripped the DRM.

 

[chucker23n1]

Looking at the material thus far presented for dictation on tvOS, it is almost directly copied from iOS. So, as I said, it's difficult to have concrete evidence on the matter since it was just barely released in beta. We'll just have to keep a look out.

That being said, while you're of the opinion that it's more likely dictation for password fields will act just like iOS, I'm of the opinion that Apple hasn't done anything to make us think they'd be that mindless as far as an obvious security risk is concerned. If a bunch of random folks on a forum can think of it within minutes of hearing about it, you can bet that the people who have been designing it for months thought of it too. So I think it far more likely that they'll provide the necessary logic to process single letters onboard the Apple TV, and that no password-field related information will be sent to their servers.

It seems like a highly logical solution, and Apple set the precedent in Mac OS when they implemented enhanced dictation. I've got no reason thus far to think otherwise.

Turns out the answer was right there in the release notes all along. Apple is rather hit-and-miss about those being useful, so I didn't think to check.

Yup. They need to make their marketing text clearer on this rather privacy-relevant point.

Spoken text dictation (words and phrases) is sent to Apple for processing.
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Spelling dictation (individual letter and number entry) voice input is processed locally on the Apple TV, and this voice input is never sent to Apple. This is primarily intended for username and password entry, and is used for UITextFields with secureTextEntry enabled [..]​

So, there's a local engine for "individual letter and number entry", including passwords, e-mail addresses, and URLs. For "words and phrases", it uses Apple's online service.

So, yes, you're right that Apple has indeed made a clear decision against transmitting dictated passwords over the wire. Good.

And neither of these folks have it quite right:

No data is sent to Apple for Spelling dictation (i.e. usernames & passwords). It all happens locally. Also, you are not required to dictate your passwords.

All data is sent to Apple when using Dictation. Nothing is done locally.

 

[skywalkerr69]

Ad a web browser please!

 

[TDARMAN]

Is Apple actually encouraging people to voice out their passwords that will be sent to Apple's server to decode into readable text?

If that's true, that has to be the dumbest thing that Apple have done. Dictation should be automatically turned off for all password fields.

Whole words and sentences will be sent to Apple, but letter-by-letter and individual digits will be handled ONLY locally.

 

[wozmatic]

It's the fast forwarding an hour when you pick the remote up or when it is on the arm of the sofa and you touch it with your elbow that really bugs me!

Yes, this. Exactly this.