Apple Seeds Third Betas of iOS 13.2 and iPadOS 13.2 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]

Hopefully, announce messages with Siri actually works in this one. :rolleyes:

I hope so! I was super excited about this when it was announced. Sad when it got removed, but glad it's back in some form. Hopefully will be improved as this cycle moves forward. Loving the new announcement tone though
 
Very quick updates for both iOS and WatchOS.

These are just weekly beta updates. Not yet finished.
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Anyone else not get the notification that the software was updated when the devices rebooted? Just did a couple of my devices and none of them showed it.

Can someone confirm the build number: 17B5077a

I want to make sure I’m actually on the latest

You know these are BETA updates, right? Unless testing is part of your mission, installing these on all of your devices could have disastrous consequences.
 
This
Is
A
Beta
They
Always
Release
This
Many
Beta
Updates

Old way:
1. Test the heck out of alpha versions with internal testers, resolve all identified bugs
2. Release beta 1, receive feedback on bugs they missed
3. Release beta 2, bugs confirmed fixed by those who reported it
4. Release GM, no major bugs found
5. Send disks to factory, spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to replicate
6. Ship disks

New "agile" way:
1. Fire entire QA department
2. While date < ship date of new hardware
Post version on beta channel
3. Move beta version to release channel
4. Goto 2
 
This beta still doesn't address boot loop issues with Siri & CarPlay, lovely.. time for yet another submission that Apple doesn't check.
 
iOS 13 was iffy on release, but they've done a great job of fixing it up. It's very smooth for me currently and will no doubt get better with 13.2.
 
why the **** are emojis a big deal?

Millennials are embarrassed when somebody with a Samsung sends them the new organic fair-trade gluten-free vegan avocado toast emoji (with selectable toast shades) and it shows up as blank squares on their iPhone. They then have to ask for an explanation, so both parties (or more if it's a group chat) come to the conclusion that Android is better.
 
These are just weekly beta updates. Not yet finished.
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You know these are BETA updates, right? Unless testing is part of your mission, installing these on all of your devices could have disastrous consequences.

Beta versions run equal to if not better for me than normal versions so I just keep my daily devices running them since if I’m gonna have issues with software I may as well blame it on a beta. Also testing is also part of my job as well lol.
 
Because Tim Apple is a huge Egyptian buff and this is the closest he'll get to designing his own set of hieroglyphics??? :apple:


My name in hieroglyphics

Snake
Twisted flax
Water

Rendered in emojis


According to the book Ancient Egyptian Magic by Bob Brier
 
Have you been filing reports? I am not seeing either of those issues
Filed 32 reports in the last beta. Up to 21 today already. They didn't fix much at all between 2 and 3. Bootloop is a serious issue because you can ask Siri a question and she'll freeze your device until the battery is dead.. once back up and running you need to plug your device into a machine to reinstall iOS because wifi/cellular does not work. Its a nasty nasty bug they should have fixed. Kind of shocked they didn't since they pulled the previous update.
 
Old way:
1. Test the heck out of alpha versions with internal testers, resolve all identified bugs
2. Release beta 1, receive feedback on bugs they missed
3. Release beta 2, bugs confirmed fixed by those who reported it
4. Release GM, no major bugs found
5. Send disks to factory, spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to replicate
6. Ship disks

New "agile" way:
1. Fire entire QA department
2. While date < ship date of new hardware
Post version on beta channel
3. Move beta version to release channel
4. Goto 2
while [ 1 ] do
nothing;
done
 
Old way:
1. Test the heck out of alpha versions with internal testers, resolve all identified bugs
2. Release beta 1, receive feedback on bugs they missed
3. Release beta 2, bugs confirmed fixed by those who reported it
4. Release GM, no major bugs found
5. Send disks to factory, spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to replicate
6. Ship disks

New "agile" way:
1. Fire entire QA department
2. While date < ship date of new hardware
Post version on beta channel
3. Move beta version to release channel
4. Goto 2
while [ 1 ] do
nothing;
done
Keep in mind, these are beta releases we are talking about.

That aside, the big assumption there is that engineering (and that includes development as well as quality engineering) has some say, let alone much of a say, in what gets addressed and what doesn't and when a release goes out or when it doesn't.
 
These are just weekly beta updates. Not yet finished.
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You know these are BETA updates, right? Unless testing is part of your mission, installing these on all of your devices could have disastrous consequences.

I’ve been told this every year for the past 8, year around. And the only disastrous consequence that has occurred is a hard reset.

Don’t trust the headlines, folks. It’s a beta, not snake poison.
 
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