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I'm still bitter about Mac OS X being renamed macOS and the lack of a proper Apple Thunderbolt display.

Now they officially cannibalize the flux app. Courageous! :mad:
 
I know the feeling, but I'm going to assume Night Shift will be optional and default to being off (an approach I wish Apple chose for nearly all new features since about Leopard...). If anyone with the beta would like to confirm that'd be nice.

Probably for now, but once Apple decides that its good for you, then I don't expect to be able to turn it off, that is the new Apple, who appears to have the goal to force the world to do what it thinks is correct, instead of letting the user decide.
 
Probably for now, but once Apple decides that its good for you, then I don't expect to be able to turn it off, that is the new Apple, who appears to have the goal to force the world to do what it thinks is correct, instead of letting the user decide.
Right...that's why it's been optional for about a year now in iOS. And that's why many other things have been optional for many many years in OS X and iOS and other Apple products.
 
Probably for now, but once Apple decides that its good for you, then I don't expect to be able to turn it off, that is the new Apple, who appears to have the goal to force the world to do what it thinks is correct, instead of letting the user decide.
You honestly think Apple will not allow you to turn Night Shift off in the future? All features are optional. Why on earth would they make it non-optional!
 
Probably for now, but once Apple decides that its good for you, then I don't expect to be able to turn it off, that is the new Apple, who appears to have the goal to force the world to do what it thinks is correct, instead of letting the user decide.

This is what makes "MacRumors", "MacRumors", unbeilable!

Enjoy Windows 10, and ads on the start menu!
 
Yet another 'feature' that makes me say 'thanks for that, how do I turn it off permanently?'

I can't be the only one who paid a fortune for a monitor that displays the right colours?
Unfortunately you are not the only one who a) get his knickers into a twist over an optional feature addition, b) whose mind inhabits an imagined parallel world where such a feature would be mandatory to use, and c) doesn't even read the fine print that explains that this feature is off by default.
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You honestly think Apple will not allow you to turn Night Shift off in the future? All features are optional. Why on earth would they make it non-optional!
I guess some people believe there are monsters under their bed because they are being told so by others.
 
I'm still bitter about Mac OS X being renamed macOS and the lack of a proper Apple Thunderbolt display.

Now they officially cannibalize the flux app. Courageous! :mad:

It's still Mac OS X to the majority of people who tire of the Apple Marketing idiocy. My opinion of flux is that it was a hack that deserves to die. I like Night Shade on OS X Sierra though, probably because it's core OS functionality if it must be implemented.
 
Can someone who downloaded this confirm if it fixes the lag on the iGPU for the 2016 MacBook Pro.
What lag? I just got a 2016 nTB MacBook Pro yesterday. I have noticed that there are some choppy animations like resizing windows and opening folders in Launch Pad. Is this what you're referring to? Or something more major?
 
What lag? I just got a 2016 nTB MacBook Pro yesterday. I have noticed that there are some choppy animations like resizing windows and opening folders in Launch Pad. Is this what you're referring to? Or something more major?
There is a whole thread on this and it's been detailed. I have found lag in iTunes album view and lag while several pages are open in safari I've got the beach ball several times and had to force close. I'm sure it's all software which is why I asked if this beta fixes it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2016-15-mbp-ui-lag.2016332/
 
My opinion of flux is that it was a hack that deserves to die.

This is very harsh. If not for flux (and other 3rd party feature developer), I'm not even sure if Apple will ever be where it is today.

Apple has been killing left and right developers who are being innovative by "stealing" their feature into iOS core.

I'm not blaming Apple's move if it's a useful feature, baking it into core can make it more stable. However, appreciation and credit should be where it dues.
 
I know this is unrelated, but has battery life improved on the new touchbar models? I have been scouring the internet and not seeing anybody post about it.
 
There is a whole thread on this and it's been detailed. I have found lag in iTunes album view and lag while several pages are open in safari I've got the beach ball several times and had to force close. I'm sure it's all software which is why I asked if this beta fixes it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2016-15-mbp-ui-lag.2016332/
Oh okay. I'm assuming this affects 13" models as well because I have noticed some minor UI stuttering on my baseline nTB MBP 2016 model too, so...

Doesn't worry me too much. It's software. Nothing to do until apple decides to finish it...

I always thought my iPad mini 2 was simply too weak to handle some of the gaussian blurs and animations smoothly but iOS 10 changed that. Like going in and out of the app switcher used to be super stuttery. Always has been. Then it got fixed in iOS 10.2. Same for viewing and dismissing notifications. That got fixed in 10.3.

Apple just has different priorities nowadays... You just have to decide whether that's a deal breaker for you as a customer of apple products. That's the position I have come to over the course of the last 4 years (since iOS 7 when we first started seeing huge issues with polish and stuttery animations).
 
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Can I hope that Night Shift is being introduced now because the next round of MBPs will have True Tone displays? I love TT on my iPP, but it gets irritating when I'm using it alongside my MBP.
 
"right color" for viewing on screen is relative to the ambient light. If you look at a 5000K white screen in a room lit with incandescent bulbs, your eyes adjust to the warm hue of the room lights and a 5000K white screen will look too blue.

Take that same monitor outside in the shade on a clear blue day, or indoors lit by ambient sky light, and the screen will look yellowish.
a lot of people who say the want "true colors" are puzzled when i ask how they have setup their lighting... and i had comments telling me my monitor colors were off, but couldn't tell me compared to what the colors were off. Also, requests for 300 DPI version of the 1200*800 pixel artwork... etc etc. Some people know something but haven't a clue how it works.
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Really? Tell me how to permanently turn off emoji on my iPhone then.
delete the emoji keyboard?
 
I guess Cricket scores has replaced new emojis as the premier beta feature we've all been waiting for. :rolleyes:

Oh yes, they do groundbreaking stuff every now and then. One of the premier features nobody expected or was waiting for, was a free upgrade to Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks. With 10.12.4, it is this as you aptly said. But you missed out on Night Shift, a very important feature.

Oh and one more thing, a whole new file system, APFS. (it literally made transfers to and from my 1TB and 2TB Seagate USB3 mechanical drives MUCH faster than I ever had them)
 
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I'm kinda excited about Night Shift. I know that flux offers the same functionality but I notice some weird artifacting with it. So, I hope/think Night Shift will be free of it.

Like what exactly? Only issues I've ever had with it is the rare issue where it will keep flashing and/or not turn off during the day, and that's only when dynamic graphics switching or integrated only is on. Discrete graphics only doesn't have this issue.

Although now that I think about it I did see some weird stuff involving pure white colors on youtube fullscreen on integrated graphics too. Again, dedicated were fine.



Also on windows the mouse doesn't change, but I just assume that's windows being the piece of sh*t windows is.
 
Probably for now, but once Apple decides that its good for you, then I don't expect to be able to turn it off, that is the new Apple, who appears to have the goal to force the world to do what it thinks is correct, instead of letting the user decide.

Right then. Go get yourself a roll of tinfoil, make a hat and sit quietly in the corner free of any Apple products.
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Really? Tell me how to permanently turn off emoji on my iPhone then.

Why are you dealing with betas when you clearly have little/no clue about the OS and it's most basic features?

I've been around here a very long time and I'm tired of misinformed, uneducated posts from those that just want to flame because Apple didn't do exactly what you wanted on the last product cycle upgrade.

If you want something badly, read up on what we have and if you still can't find it ask *nicely* and someone here will try to help. Failing that, communicate with Apple directly.

Do not come on here bitching about your own personal idea of utopia when you don't have a grasp of the basics.

I've had enough of the pointless beta moaners. Be constructive or get out.
 
There is a whole thread on this and it's been detailed. I have found lag in iTunes album view and lag while several pages are open in safari I've got the beach ball several times and had to force close. I'm sure it's all software which is why I asked if this beta fixes it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2016-15-mbp-ui-lag.2016332/
Thx. With the lack of release notes, I guess there isn't anything compelling enough to be installed anyway. My screen colors are OK and I can handle brightness without a ToolBar (now if it would stick...)
 
Unfortunately you are not the only one who a) get his knickers into a twist over an optional feature addition, b) whose mind inhabits an imagined parallel world where such a feature would be mandatory to use, and c) doesn't even read the fine print that explains that this feature is off by default.
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I guess some people believe there are monsters under their bed because they are being told so by others.
...or being told so by Siri (which is also turnoffable).
 
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