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Apple Seeds Updated First Beta of iOS 14.5 and iPadOS 14.5 to Developers and Public Beta Testers

dtrj787 said:
Exactly. The closer we get to final build, the earlier the letter should be. More than likely the "J" build had something screwed up or changed that shouldn't have been, so they just pushed out an older build they already had, instead of trying to fix it very quickly to push out a new version.
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Cobold said:
Not hexadecimal, as neither j nor k are present in hex. Hexadecimal is ending with f ;)

And the letter does not represent a build but a compile of one specific build. See my comment above.
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You are current, I was thinking that the numbers increase build and hexadecimal came to mind as a counting system that used letters, didn't pay attention to what the letters actually where. In Xcode (assuming that's what they are using) The build system includes the compiling steps. So it's actually represents a build. And you could build the same build number several times, not that you would or should.
 
sdf said:
Not quite.
  • The first number is the product version family. Apple could do whatever they want with this, but it'll increase with each major version. Probably only by one, but that's not guaranteed. For instance, Catalina is 19 and Big Sur is 20. No idea if macOS 12 will be 21; it's the logical guess, but it's not guaranteed.
  • The letter represents a minor version. In the past, 10.15.0 might have been A, 10.15.1 might have been B. With Big Sur, it seems they consume a letter for both minor or patch versions. We're up to D now for 11.2, which is the fourth release (11.0, 11.0.1, 11.1 and 11.2). So 11.2.1 or 11.3 will probably be E, whichever comes next. I don't know if Apple tries to reclaim letters if they decide not to release a version. For instance, 11.2.1 might get some traction as a minor release and then just be rolled up to 11.3. If they were both in testing, I could see 11.2.1 using up E so that 11.3 was F.
  • The final number represents a build number within the version. Apple typically does builds at least daily, and they may reset this part of the build number between minor releases.
So 20D64 should be read as 20-D-64, or 20-4-64, and means "Big Sur, release 4, build 64." And you have to guess when the 64 part was last reset. The only thing you can be certain of is that 20 represents Big Sur, 20D 11.2 and 20D63, 20D64 and 20D65 are ordered builds of 11.2 (and they probably won't all go public, or even pass whatever internal testing Apple has).

TL;DR: The first number represents the major version. The letter represents the release within the version in a way you can't reverse engineer. The last number represents the build within that version and release.

Still too long: A one digit change to the build could still be a huge number of changes, or otherwise have a huge impact.
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Thats a good explanation, thanks, my point was just that the last number goes up as it gets better, and not down to an A.
 
upandown said:
Does it still occur with the updated beta 1?

I still believe they haven’t ironed out the iPhone 12 wireless connectivity issues that have been present since day 1.
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I opted out of the public beta's for now.

I used to be really big on fiddling with it, but this past year? Well, just goes without saying. I've had to work in a fairly high risk environment when it comes to 'Rona (about half my co workers have had it so far, including myself and I'm pretty sure I brought it home to my wife. Fortunately weekly testing kept me from giving it to my 77 year old mother in law. Weekly testing should give you a hint of the risk factor). I have multiple underlying conditions (liver disease, heart valve implant) and while we HAVE gotten the first round of the vax, my employer is jerking us around on the second. Plus other things.

I need my phone to work, so no beta's for GS. Not for now.....
 
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Is this public beta stable enough to use in primary device?. And do you need to also update your watchOS fo have the unlock with Apple Watch feature? Thanks
 
MacRumors said:
This opt-in option lets you use an unlocked and authenticated Apple Watch as a secondary authentication method to unlock an iPhone alongside Face ID. With this feature, you no longer have to enter a passcode or remove your mask to unlock your iPhone.
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I’m damn sure this feature requires 2FA, which I can’t use. I don’t use beta but this feature would help me checking stuff quickly while wearing a mask.
 
SRLMJ23 said:
Wow. I am really impressed with how fast my iPhone 12 Pro Max unlocks with my Apple Watch, awesome feature!

Also, I tested this about 15 times in a row, and it has worked every single time, and every single time since!

Really, really impressed.

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Test it on someone else. It unlocks when sees any face. In addition you wifi should be on ti gave it active.
 
14.5 updates into iOS and it’s still one of the worst keyboards on a phone . Are they ever going to update it ? Especially on the 12 pro max ? A number row would be great or not have to hit extra buttons for ... and a reduction of dead space on the bottom . I just don’t understand why iPads got better keyboards and the iPhone has stayed exactly the same . Even the 3rd party ones suck
 
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Prof. said:
Do we know why Apple no longer uses the 14.x.x update format? I’m late to the party.
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It certainly appears that they’re finally following SemVer-like semantics;

Major versions when there’s a breaking change;
Minor versions when there’s a backwards compatible new feature/change;
Patch versions for bug fix changes;

Heck we just might finally get off this 12 month churn roundabout and get rolling updates of a given major version for 2-3 years before a new major comes out and drops old device support, etc.
 
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