Apple Seeking New Samsung Device Sales Ban in U.S. with Court Appeal

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Bloomberg reports that Apple this week will ask a U.S. appeals court to forbid sales of specific Samsung mobile devices that were found in violation of various Apple patents by a California jury last year. These models include phones such as the Galaxy S2 and the Droid Charge, as well as tablets like the Galaxy Tab, although most of the devices have already been removed from the market by Samsung.

    The trial in question initially resulted in a $1 billion verdict for Apple, although the judge in the case later voided nearly half of the judgment due to juror error, with that portion of the damages requiring a new trial to be revised.

    In the original case, Judge Lucy Koh ruled that while the jury found Apple was entitled to monetary damages, there was no basis for a ban on sales of the infringing Samsung devices. Apple's appeal this week focuses on that decision even as appeals on the jury's verdict remain outstanding.

    Article Link: Apple Seeking New Samsung Device Sales Ban in U.S. with Court Appeal
  2. jan1024188 macrumors member

    Apr 27, 2011
  3. MasterHowl macrumors 65816


    Oct 3, 2010
    North of England
    All this "Apple vs. Samsung" stuff is getting really boring now.

    Can't MacRumours have another tab in-between the iOS Blog and Roundups buttons at the top of the page to put all this stuff in?
  4. keysofanxiety macrumors 604


    Nov 23, 2011
    Apple, the devices that are infringing the patents are near enough discontinued now. Just draw a line under it and look to the future. They don't need to do these lawsuits as even the outcome would be inconsequential.

    Bring on the next iPhone! Sure, if the S3 or the S4 infringed on patents, sue away. But as they haven't ... just forget it? Please? :(


    In fairness this wasn't on the front page so it hasn't exactly been shoved in your face ...

    Man up.
  5. Surreal macrumors 6502a

    Jun 18, 2004
    1. 'The ban' is proposed and not set to take effect so what would the president veto?
    2. Are the patents standards essential?
  6. ade2bee macrumors regular

    Dec 13, 2009
    I'm sat here with iOS7 running on my device in one hand, along with a Galaxy S3 in the other and a windows phone on the table for comparison, marvelling at the court cases that everyone is going to bring against Apple over some of the OS's simplest features.

    Then you have the fact that I believe that the next iPhone will be a 5S, the investment in the 5's casing and Apple's obstinacy won't allow them to bring a new phone out this year, with the new chip going into a mid-term upgrade of the S4.

    I dread to think what will happen when the people on the street see what they will perceive as a glorified update to the least most popular iPhone (as in durability and wear and tear) to date
  7. Rocketman, Aug 8, 2013
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2013

    Rocketman macrumors 603


    Why not make a motion to re-impanel the same jury to save time and cost?

    Both parties could split a $5k stipend per person and save massive time and money in the process, including for the court itself. Not all motions are accepted but this one likely would be. The jurors would have to agree to it, hence the stipend.
  8. Wayfarer macrumors 65816


    Jun 15, 2007
  9. macrumors 68000

    May 25, 2012
    Gets let off on one and then goes back on offense.
  10. kas23 macrumors 603


    Oct 28, 2007
    I think it's fairly ironic that a ban of Apple products was struck down based on such a ban being counterproductive towards healthy competition, but then Apple turns around and seeks another ban.
  11. fruitpunch.ben macrumors 6502a


    Sep 16, 2008
    Surrey, BC
    Lol. Way to project your own problems with your phone onto the entire world. :rolleyes: Have you seen the sales figures released lately? ;)
  12. cdmoore74 macrumors 68020

    Jun 24, 2010
    Guess Apple doesn't like the 13% world wide market share number from yesterday. And no matter how many lawsuits Apple brings it does not help. Only a redesigned iPhone (not 5S or 5C) will turn things around. Even LG is coming out with a more powerful Android phone that looks better than the S4. You can't sue everyone. Android is just to big.
    If Apple stays on this path more devices will surpass the iPhone brand.
  13. LOLZpersonok macrumors 6502a


    Aug 10, 2012
    Calgary, Canada
    For those who are wondering "just enough!" this is probably a marketing technique. I believe that, by shutting down the competition themselves and making it look bad (by suing for 'infringing' patents) that more people will come to Apple and ditch the competition. That's what I believe, the actual reason could be totally different.

    Oh, they also get money if they win.
  14. cdmoore74 macrumors 68020

    Jun 24, 2010
    Desperate times call for desperate measures. Apple is losing badly to Android and Microsoft is trying to make a comeback. How embarrassing would it be if Microsoft took 2nd place in phone sales? It's bound to happen. Question is when. Apple is played out and is a favorite for the older set.
    Apple needs a iPhone 6; not another lawsuit or iPhone 5s/5c.
  15. LOLZpersonok macrumors 6502a


    Aug 10, 2012
    Calgary, Canada
    If this argument is going where I think it's going, then here's my two cents:

    It doesn't matter what the sales figures are. If it's got a defect then it's a problem.

    I got chipped paint on my iPhone within the first 8 days of having it. Don't know how, but I do. And I don't like it. I know it's only cosmetic, but still. It's kinda disappointing.


    I think all this hate Microsoft is getting is stupid, just like the amount of lawsuits Apple causes.

    I find no real justifiable reason for it. I personally have never had a bad experience with Microsoft.
  16. Plutonius macrumors 603


    Feb 22, 2003
    New Hampshire
    The veto was for a ban based on FRAND patents.
  17. cdmoore74 macrumors 68020

    Jun 24, 2010
    How are these lawsuits helping? It's been almost a year since Apple won against Samsung and Android numbers are higher than ever while Apple numbers are shrinking. If Apple keeps this up everyone here will be using Android. These lawsuits are a terrible strategy; their not helping Apple hold onto marketshare.
  18. LOLZpersonok macrumors 6502a


    Aug 10, 2012
    Calgary, Canada
    Well forgive me for not caring enough about Apple to research this kind of stuff but that was my theory for thought. As I said, "That's what I believe, the actual reason could be totally different".
  19. Schwerpunkt macrumors newbie

    May 15, 2013
    I know this whole patent thing is a bit complicated, but it would be better if you informed yourself about topics before you comment on them. That way you won't embarrass yourself in future.


    Are you even paying attention to the news? Seems that Andriod is leaking users faster than they can recruit new ones. This whole meme that Apple is losing market share is just not true.


    Talk about blaming the victim.
  20. pirg macrumors 6502a


    Apr 18, 2013
    Yeah why aren't they vetoing the non ban? :rolleyes:
  21. macs4nw macrumors 68040


    If this sales ban is granted, as of now, how many devices will this realistically affect? Just wondering.....
  22. kdarling macrumors demi-god


    Jun 9, 2007
    Cabin by a lake
    None, but that's not the point.

    They want the precedent set, so they can more easily go after current models.
  23. heutusops macrumors regular

    Aug 6, 2013
    they wanna ban devices which are about two and a half years old, wow, why dont you ban the products they released in the 1977?:rolleyes:

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