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Fully agree it’s better for granny to wait.

we have had lots of Public beta experience in our family. My mom and sister eventually swore off PB’s in 2015 or 16 because of drivability issues. Around that time I waited to install PB until folks reported it as stable which was usually in August.

this year I installed it in my backup 6S early (wanted to try out private relay and HME) and because it was so good installed it on the rest of my gear. (Aside from the current 100 iCloud address limit in HME and that Private Relay stalls results in me often turning it off or in what seems to be affecting content blocker whitelists for capetchas).

But Now a granny story… Last week, my 88-y/o hearing impaired mom who uses her iPhone 11 with an expensive 1st gen MFi now about 5-y/o hearing aid that has been brilliant all this time, began noticing uncommanded random calls being made from her recents list. (We later assumed this was due to the Watch to Phone bug of recent days and her not having installed the latest watch update but did not realize this at first.)

On the false assumption by me that both devices were up to date, we (in two different countries and me running iOS 15 and watchOS 8 on multiple old devices with stellar results) decided to install 15 & 8 on her phone and watch as a way around doing a iOS 14 reinstall.

We got as far as installing the iOS 15 PB profile but not installing the PB OS before we realized the Watch wasn’t up to date on the last watchOS 7 update.

So we installed the Watch update and decided to hold off on installing 15 and 8 to see if the Watch u/d solved the ghost caller. It did.

I warned my mom that if iOS nagged her in a couple of days to install the PB she should just ignore it but we would leave the profile in place in case the ghost calls continued.

well a couple days later, the reminder box popped up and forgetting my instructions she installed the PB thinking “oh they must have released 15 a month early.” She’s 88 and not into apple details and misunderstood the nag box. She didn’t install 8 because we haven’t installed the profile.

We soon learned that she can’t hear audio in FaceTime but for regular calls and videos audio is ok.

We looked at restoring the phone and reinstalling 14 but she backs up to iCloud and I didn’t find guidance for how to do that so we decided to let her stay on 15 hoping our bug report and a future beta update would fix this.

we updated her watch to 8 for compatibility.

After many conversations last week via watch, with her holding onto her shoulder to keep wrist near ear (because Apple has still failed to make the Watch work with MFi aids) we also learned that if she takes the call in Watch and transfers it to her phone the audio works (but with occasional echoes and perceptible delay.)
 
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Yeah, I received the email last night. But I’m sorry Apple, after years of being a macOS tester, nowadays I prefer to wait until the software is tested and stable. I guess I’m getting older...
Or there’s just not all that much exciting to see in the betas. So doesn’t make much sense to sacrifice stability for the potential downsides that come with betas, such as worsened battery life, stability issues, memory management problems and so forth. If the new iOS releases had new shiny killer features, then the risk would definitely be worth it (at least to me).

This is the first year in several years that I haven’t installed iOS beta. And I won’t until 15.1 drops. One year I installed the beta, and my Gps wasn’t working properly and CarPlay was acting up, and I didn’t know it until I was already on the highway, not exactly a place to be fidgeting with the iPhone. I was beyond frustrated.
 
🥳 Installed iOS 15 Beta for Live Text and Visual Lookup.

😭 Noticed my iPhone 7 is not supporting it
(only A12 or better, so iPhone 11 and up)

🤩 Added to list of reasons to buy the next iPhone. Muhahaha!
 
Why?. They don’t care!. Can’t even edit a dialed number in the PHONE app!.
 
Its clear this is not for everybody, but there are millions who will love the chance to try a beta.
For me, IOS is every year more and more ridiculous. iPhone 11promax gets hit by typing this reply even. Wow, safari uses a lot of battery I just this???, “very good hardware/software optimization
That only Apple can do”. Tim does not uses his iPhone.
 
Good luck with that. Lot of traffic over the weekend from people indicating they have no interest in upgrading to iOS Big State. Be interesting to see how long it takes Apple to wake up and backpedal hard on this.
 
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Sounds like a problem with your modem, no issues on 12 pro max or M1 iPad. 🤔
Nope, issues they indicated are well known in the support forums.
For me iOS 15 means no transcribed voicemail, Siri becoming completely useless and the mail app force closing half the time. TVOS 15 has app compatibility problems across the board. Again these are all discussed in the support forums.
 
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I have iPad OS 15 on my 2018 Pro and it’s pretty buggy. Lots of apps crashing (especially browsers). Definitely not as stable as last year‘s betas.
 


Apple is encouraging as many users as it can to install the latest public betas of iOS 15, iPadOS 15, macOS Monterey, tvOS, and watchOS 8.

apple-beta-program.jpg

In an email sent to users enrolled in its Beta Software Program, spotted by 9to5Mac, Apple told recipients they can "help shape Apple software by test-driving pre-release versions and letting us know what you think."

Apple is expected to release beta 5 of its new operating systems soon, and the company clearly wants as much feedback about the software as possible before it officially releases them to the public in September.

If you're interested in trying out the latest iOS 15 public beta but aren't sure where to start, be sure to check out our how-to guide.

Article Link: Apple Seeking to Expand iOS 15 Beta Testers as Official Public Release Looms
This has been my last beta testing with Apple. That’s for sure. Beta 2 put my iPhone 12pro an iPad Pro (both) in a endless starting loop I managed through DFU, to escape to non beta ios. But then the Apple Watch was left untethered and totally useless (except I could wait until October for final releases and link it back with the iPhone ios 15 final). The local Apple store wanted to charge me 200€ for making it a dfu.
 
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I think the only Apple beta I ever tried was macOS Sierra. Never had a problem, extremely polished but never desired to do it again. I think the change to the file system (APFS) in 10.13 made me wary of dual booting.
In my experience, macOS Sierra was one of the smoothest OS Apple has ever released. On the other hand, Sierra had just a few tweaks compared to El Capitan. I can’t remember any new noticeable feature.
 
most people just have their daily driver device. universal recommendation from any sensible tech people is NOT to install pre-release software on something you rely on. encouraging people to do it is...not good practice. especially considering if something goes wrong, even if it's NOT a beta problem, apple care / repair appointments are going to require downgrading first. just frustration and a waste of time.
 
Fully agree it’s better for granny to wait.

we have had lots of Public beta experience in our family. My mom and sister eventually swore off PB’s in 2015 or 16 because of drivability issues. Around that time I waited to install PB until folks reported it as stable which was usually in August.

this year I installed it in my backup 6S early (wanted to try out private relay and HME) and because it was so good installed it on the rest of my gear. (Aside from the current 100 iCloud address limit in HME and that Private Relay stalls results in me often turning it off or in what seems to be affecting content blocker whitelists for capetchas).

But Now a granny story… Last week, my 88-y/o hearing impaired mom who uses her iPhone 11 with an expensive 1st gen MFi now about 5-y/o hearing aid that has been brilliant all this time, began noticing uncommanded random calls being made from her recents list. (We later assumed this was due to the Watch to Phone bug of recent days and her not having installed the latest watch update but did not realize this at first.)

On the false assumption by me that both devices were up to date, we (in two different countries and me running iOS 15 and watchOS 8 on multiple old devices with stellar results) decided to install 15 & 8 on her phone and watch as a way around doing a iOS 14 reinstall.

We got as far as installing the iOS 15 PB profile but not installing the PB OS before we realized the Watch wasn’t up to date on the last watchOS 7 update.

So we installed the Watch update and decided to hold off on installing 15 and 8 to see if the Watch u/d solved the ghost caller. It did.

I warned my mom that if iOS nagged her in a couple of days to install the PB she should just ignore it but we would leave the profile in place in case the ghost calls continued.

well a couple days later, the reminder box popped up and forgetting my instructions she installed the PB thinking “oh they must have released 15 a month early.” She’s 88 and not into apple details and misunderstood the nag box. She didn’t install 8 because we haven’t installed the profile.

We soon learned that she can’t hear audio in FaceTime but for regular calls and videos audio is ok.

We looked at restoring the phone and reinstalling 14 but she backs up to iCloud and I didn’t find guidance for how to do that so we decided to let her stay on 15 hoping our bug report and a future beta update would fix this.

we updated her watch to 8 for compatibility.

After many conversations last week via watch, with her holding onto her shoulder to keep wrist near ear (because Apple has still failed to make the Watch work with MFi aids) we also learned that if she takes the call in Watch and transfers it to her phone the audio works (but with occasional echoes and perceptible delay.)
sounds like a nightmare. My mother is nearly the same age group - I feel for you.
 
No Apple, I will remain on iOS 14 until you have backtracked your spyware plan.

Kthanksbye
While I disagree with your opinion on apple's CSAM plan, I do respect your right to choose what occurs on the devices YOU paid for.

You better check your iOS update settings, and maybe even for apps as well. then keep a lazer sharp focus on it while iOS 14.8 is soon to launch.
 
Tempted! Do they scan my photos for child images in iOS 15 though? Not so keen on them going through my pics
 
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