Can you tell me with these app changes how much money epic will make in the US on the iOS App Store? That estimated revenue should provide the answer.
Epic reaps no benefit.
Sure. It’s apples’ App Store.
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Then just allow alternative stores or sideloading, like you already allow in Europe!
Just give in, your monopoly on apps is over!
I actually think the bigger question should be how much money is Apple going to lose because one guy took them to court
Because his game Fortnite only had 7% of users on iOS App Store
And as a consequence of that he’s managed to change the iOS App Store’s policy
In the USA because his game wasn’t dependent on it.
so basically you don’t want payment links because Apple say it’s bad?
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That’s not it all. Maybe review the sequence of events:
And only made several hundred million. Now epic makes $0 and in the future unless Apple recants they will make $0.
Yes, one point was lost in epic cs Apple, but epic was kicked out of the App Store.
And you want payment links because you don’t feel Apple is entitled to run the app store the way they want.
He wanted kicked out to then take Apple to court & as a consequence of that Apple are now having to change their whole App Store policy in the USA
Because Fortnite only had 7% of users on iOS compared with other platforms.
So as a consequence of this Apple will lose money because it affects every developer on the App Store who now don’t need to use IAP to sell to customers & Apple won’t get a cent.
It’s not that I think Apple shouldn’t get anything
However to be it’s just a device
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Yes, but there are some events missing and epic still can’t recenter the AppStore. As a reminder this has been floated in an emergency appeal. So it will be interesting to see what happens. It’s my opinion this was a calculated move by apple. The entire thing.
And that’s worth several hundred million dollars epic managed to squander. Many business would love to make several hundred million.
And epic wk t be allowed back into the iOS App Store. Apple made an emergency filing with the appellate court so it will be interesting to see where it goes.
It’s a device with access to the ecosystem and the internet.
One of the ways to look at it: if you boil down the term «eco system of devices», you will see that it's unlike any other thing that humans can commit to.
You can just go and buy a different car or a TV if you don't like your current one.
You can switch your electricity provider or mobile carrier, but usually it's not that easy, because there are contact termination fees and such. At least nowadays you can keep your number when switching carriers.
But things get much more complicated when it comes to software and electronics.
Many kinds of data that you keep on your smartphone are not really portable, and many accessories are not compatible between different operating systems (AirTags, HomePods, etc; it works the other way, too — you can't use Chromecast devices with iOS)
So it's only fair that governments try to regulate these eco systems, and aim for more portability / better competition.
And since modern smartphone is a car key, a government ID, a payment method, a bank login, an information source, and plays many other crucial roles, it's almost like government regulation is unavoidable.
What part don’t you get Tim Sweeney has currently changed the iOS App Store in the USA and he done it because his game wasn’t dependent on the App Store
If Fortnite was dependent on iOS then he wouldn’t have taken them to court that’s the point
It’s a just a mobile buddy nothing else
If a developer puts a link in their app then why does it actually matter
What part don’t you get that 1) epic will not be allowed back into the App Store and 2) this could have a half life of a goldfish.
Probably not. It’s not every business can lose $700M and poke the bear and lose.
Because it’s not your or the devs rules to say what should be allowed or not.
Don’t play Fortnite
All I know is one guy challenged the iOS App Store & has managed to change their whole rules and regulations for every developer going forward
So that is a win
if Tim Sweeney lost as you claim then why is Apple having to appeal against this court ruling that involves them not being able to get a cent from any developer from a payment link?
It’s just a device buddy
Cry me a river, Apple. You are full of ****.
Epic didn’t win anything. Their ban isn’t being unblocked. This going forward could last 2 days. Who knows how long the emergency appeal will take. Even if it will have any effect.
Tim Sweeney can’t get back in the App Store.
Then why hundreds of posts over a device?
This is it. I'll also add that if Apple depended on their software to make money (like they used to when they charged for new versions of Mac OS) they would be humbled. Their built-in "free" software sucks compared to the competition. How do you make your wares look better? Stifle the competition and create user lock-in. Very clever, despite being anti-consumer.
I’m just assuming that if we were ever to back to the traditional keynotes the whooping at each new feature would be done by Apple employees with the devs sitting in a stoney silence !
You do understand that because Tim Sweeney took Apple to court
Then Apple have got to change their whole rules on the iOS App Store
By now allowing payment links & free commission on them
So that means Tim Sweeney has currently changed the App Store
So that is how he won.
Because if he didn’t win then Apple wouldn’t be trying to appeal something if Tim Sweeney lost 👍🏻
It’s just a device buddy
If a court tells a company that they need to let developers insert payment links then why does it actually matter
It’s not as if you’re going to be directly affected by it
That’s why
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This is how they benefit. Them loosing a few hundred millions can still result in them getting billions in return in the long term.
What do you think happens if they later ”license” the game to a different company who then puts it on the AppStore?
If they get their foot in the door as the alternative game store for iOS and android?
It’s a low risk high reward game with Apple. Considering they largely now have won against Google
agreed, corruption in politics prevents the government from doing its actual job, which is to represent the will and the good of the people in favor of lobbied interests
There’s an old expression that reads: “It’s not over, till it’s over”.
At this point Epic is not being allowed to back into the US IOS App Store. Epic made hundreds of millions from that. So for all this time all that revenue is wiped out.
Additionally, anything they are out of largess as being a payment processor maybe only short lived as there is an appeal process ongoing.
Who knows how that will turn out, but Apple has been known to lose a few battles and win the war. So one cant say Epic won anything, until it’s over. It could also be a partial victory for apple and a partial loss for Epic.
Who knows? At least in the US things are in play and Epic shouldn’t be counting their chickens.
That answer is already available. Epic already has a PC game store and they charge nothing to serve you games or keep your save files. I can't say the same about Nintendo.
The solution for this (and many of the problems we have with big tech) is to stop giving them so much power over our damn lives. The App Store was great in the early days when they had to compete and make good software to compel us to use apps in our lives. Games weren't just gambling addictions with pretty graphics back then, there was creativity and innovation with a healthy bit of quirkiness. But now that it's so damn pervasive in our lives they can sell us overpriced garbage and get upset when we don't buy. They can play with bureaucratic lawsuits and nonsense rather than improving products and services. I wish there was a revolution to go back to old school tech, go back to paper forms, go back to dumb phones, go back to boring biege computers, people going outside again and meeting face to face rather than arguing on social media and getting rejected on dating apps. Then and only then will they start making better stuff, when they'll be consumer first, because they won't have a captive audience, they'll have to compete for our attention. Technology wasn't supposed to control our lives, it's supposed to enhance it.
The invitational viewing of the pre-recorded presentation still happens, so some people know the truth about that.
The main headline the previous year was the Apple Vision Pro: I can at least say that was extraordinarily exciting to me as a developer – something I felt like I'd waited a lifetime to start learning about. Apple Intelligence was the first theme I felt a little wary about, and that seems to have played out – but it still came amid plenty of the usual cool stuff. This coming year, I'm not sure we're anticipating a particular focus. But I'd guess we're pretty far from enough of a dearth of real interest to merit silence.
I don’t get what you mean it’s not over till it’s over are you an Apple lawyer?
But Fortnite only had 7% market share of their app on iOS App Store that is why
Tim Sweeney took Apple to court because his game doesn’t rely on iOS because it’s on other platforms
Hence why he took them to court
there is an appeal process going on because Tim Sweeney took Apple to court and as a consequence of that they are now having to put payment links into the App Store with zero commission so how did Apple actually win?
At this point I wish Apple
Would just buy out Epic and then oust the crybaby Sweeney
Would just buy out Epic and then oust the crybaby Sweeney