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This is stupid. What is the difference performing a search with the Google app for X rated content, and asking an X rated question to an AI app? Absolutely nothing.

Gatekeeping by Apple - sign of weakness that they're behind with AI.
Hahaha. The Google app is rated 17+.
 
Good. AI is a cancer. I hope Apple becomes the anti-AI company.
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Psst!


- Tim Cook said AI would be a "major focus" for Apple and affect every product and service.
- Cook said Apple has already integrated AI into some of its iPhone and Apple watch features.

On an earnings call with investors and reporters on Thursday afternoon, Cook said AI is a "major focus" at Apple, adding, "it's incredible in terms of how it can enrich customers' lives."

Apple's CEO said he plans to incorporate AI into the company further.

"We see enormous potential in this space to affect virtually everything we do... It will affect every product and every service that we have," Cook said.
 
AI is not ready for prime time with the kiddies. Already there have been examples of very disturbing interactions with some of these AI systems already. The systems do not have any knowledge of what is moral or socially appropriate. The rely on what humans have said in their training set - which, unless carefully vetted, could include all kinds of nonsense kids shouldn't be exposed to. I would imagine in a few years the need for restrictions might lessen, but for now I'd keeo any children away from AI chatbots. Indeed, we're going to have to train kids to have good BS detectors, for it will come from AI as much as twisted human extremists.

The current spate of what we are calling "AI" isn't ready for anyone. More entertainment value at this point than anything really useful. To your point, maybe some year.

Anything search in the App Store is pretty much 17+. However you want to look at it, Apple's rating system is a joke and pretty much useless. "Sorry Julie, you cannot download any browser as they are rated 17+. You will have to use preinstalled Safari which is also rated 17+".
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if the 17+ rating for generative AI apps wasn't at least in part due to the Replika and Luka, Inc. fiasco. Replika is an AI companion app that potentially generated NSFW content and the minimum age rating for that app was 13 per the app's own TOS (section 6.4) up until recently. The app took a lot of heat in Italy, in part, due to lack of age restrictions. There's been quite a bit of fallout, as evidenced in r/replika in particular, with many subscribers canceling their subs and requesting refunds from Apple and Google app stores.
 
It does seem rather unfair to require a 17+ rating on this app, especially since I was perfectly capable of generating plenty of offensive content in emails when I was 17 and that was without any AI involved. 😤
I thought the same. Technically anything that interacts with others could have offensive content.
 
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You failed to answer the question how this is different than opening up the Google iOS app and performing a search and seeing prohibited content. Spare me the 'well Google isn't hosting it' nonsense.

Because Google is trying to moderate and curate content for their “AI”.

If people just use open source APIs for AIs and don’t moderate what the systems are learning on, then it goes downhill fast. Chatbots start making racists rants and sexist comments.

You don’t seriously think kids in school should be generating such text in the middle of class and sending it to other kids do you? Of course you don’t.

So you have to pre-empt situations like that by adding age ratings. Schools will probably take action too.
 
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I STRONGLY support this.

As the father of a 13yo, it's important to get kids to understand actual intelligence and differing personalities first, before having to deal with something that is synthesized. I'm still building up the skill of discernment in my son, which is a vital skill he will need for life... something which an inappropriately-applied AI will inherently work to circumvent.
 
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I STRONGLY support this.

As the father of a 13yo, it's important to get kids to understand actual intelligence and differing personalities first, before having to deal with something that is synthesized. I'm still building up the skill of discernment in my son, which is a vital skill he will need for life... something which an inappropriately-applied AI will inherently work to circumvent.

I've not seen an example of output from ChatGPT that would have any worse effect than a generic search engine. My son is able to use ChatGPT to assist him in developing Lua algorithms to use for creating content for Roblox. The same results can likely be found elsewhere, but not without weeding through forums, Discord servers, and obnoxious websites.
 
Likely a response to the governments in certain states requiring identification? To stay out of that mess, they say that they’re flagging it as 17+ as the credit card carrying (kids under 18 can’t typically get their own card, but they can be, one would expect, voluntarily added to someone else’s) government ID’d owner of the account has the responsibility of providing access.

Folks who are going to rant are going to rant anyway :)
 
Because Google is trying to moderate and curate content for their “AI”.

If people just use open source APIs for AIs and don’t moderate what the systems are learning on, then it goes downhill fast. Chatbots start making racists rants and sexist comments.

You don’t seriously think kids in school should be generating such text in the middle of class and sending it to other kids do you? Of course you don’t.

So you have to pre-empt situations like that by adding age ratings. Schools will probably take action too.

Not.

If you could get a bunch of chats between HS Students you would see how deep these "degenerate :oops: minds" can really go. #HormonalTeens. 😂🤣🤯
 
I think Apple is staying out of this because AI is cloud based. That’s privacy disaster waiting to happen.

The neural engine on Apple Silicon is still not powerful enough to do on device chat based AI powered by Siri. it’s probably about 5-6 years away before its very powerful tool and has capabilities of doing it on device.
 
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No self respecting 12 and under would be caught dead using email anyway. 4-6 demographic moved to Snapchat in the womb
 
They're not staying out of the race. They ported Stable Diffusion to CoreML.

Yes, but unfortunately (and I know it as I have been using it extensively these months) the core ML implementation lacks many features of the windows counterpart.

It basically only allows text-to-img generation at 512x412 (or 512 x 769 in some cases) and no other feature is supported (like img-to-img, batch processing, model training and so on...).
It's very frustrating as a mac user to see all the amazing innovations in this space on windows with none coming to the mac.

Unfortunately the stablediffusion webui software runs slow and it's quite glitchy on macOS.

At this moment in time, if you want to invest into Ai it's much better to stay on the windows side (and, once again, I'm mainly a mac user).
 
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Dear email, I can't be arsed to go into work today as I fancy a day in bed drinking beer.
Please send my boss an email telling him how I've hurt myself, and need to recover.
SEND.......

Oh dammit.....

I've used Apple Mail which does not have AI !!!!
 
I've not seen an example of output from ChatGPT that would have any worse effect than a generic search engine. My son is able to use ChatGPT to assist him in developing Lua algorithms to use for creating content for Roblox. The same results can likely be found elsewhere, but not without weeding through forums, Discord servers, and obnoxious websites.

My son tried to use ChatGPT to write a paper for him, in lieu of doing his own homework. I told him the purpose of his assignments, and school in general, was to build up his own intelligence, and to not cede his ability to think to machines that do NOT actually think on their own. Because by doing that, he also gives up far too much of himself, for life.
 
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Yes, but unfortunately (and I know it as I have been using it extensively these months) the core ML implementation lacks many features of the windows counterpart.

It basically only allows text-to-img generation at 512x412 (or 512 x 769 in some cases) and no other feature is supported (like img-to-img, batch processing, model training and so on...).
It's very frustrating as a mac user to see all the amazing innovations in this space on windows with none coming to the mac.

Mochi Diffusion is working on fixing that

Unfortunately the stablediffusion webui software runs slow and it's quite glitchy on macOS.

No it doesn't. InvokeAI works great with me.

At this moment in time, if you want to invest into Ai it's much better to stay on the windows side (and, once again, I'm mainly a mac user).

Again: InvokeAI
 
My son tried to use ChatGPT to write a paper for him, in lieu of doing his own homework. I told him the purpose of his assignments, and school in general, was to build up his own intelligence, and to not cede his ability to think to machines that do NOT actually think on their own. Because by doing that, he also gives up far too much of himself, for life.

While ChatGPT can write the paper, the information it pulls, it has no was to determine fact from fiction. Folks have had some fun doing exactly that. Did some querying on SAP (ERP) functionality via ChatGPT and it frequently got it wrong.
 
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Yes, but unfortunately (and I know it as I have been using it extensively these months) the core ML implementation lacks many features of the windows counterpart.

It basically only allows text-to-img generation at 512x412 (or 512 x 769 in some cases) and no other feature is supported (like img-to-img, batch processing, model training and so on...).
It's very frustrating as a mac user to see all the amazing innovations in this space on windows with none coming to the mac.

Unfortunately the stablediffusion webui software runs slow and it's quite glitchy on macOS.

At this moment in time, if you want to invest into Ai it's much better to stay on the windows side (and, once again, I'm mainly a mac user).
Have apple silicon? There are some good apps available that are pretty fully featured (not as full as Invoke or A111) and not glitchy (as Invoke or A111).
 
Because Google is trying to moderate and curate content for their “AI”.

If people just use open source APIs for AIs and don’t moderate what the systems are learning on, then it goes downhill fast. Chatbots start making racists rants and sexist comments.

You don’t seriously think kids in school should be generating such text in the middle of class and sending it to other kids do you? Of course you don’t.

So you have to pre-empt situations like that by adding age ratings. Schools will probably take action too.

Applying ratings to an app and requiring filtering within the app are two very different things. Apple is requiring in-app filtering for AI apps, when there is no functional difference between an iOS AI app and a iOS search engine app.
 
Have apple silicon? There are some good apps available that are pretty fully featured (not as full as Invoke or A111) and not glitchy (as Invoke or A111).
The one that works the best is mochi diffusion, which is extremely fast but feature-poor.
 
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