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We need self driving cars. They will dramatically lessen auto deaths and injuries and open our clogged roadways again with smart driving. All this story does is play into our fears of computer driving and will make self driving cars harder to populate the road with. We need POSITIVE stories about self driving cars, and statistics on HUMAN accidents and auto deaths.


Nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled.

This will go WAY DOWN with self driving cars.
Yes, maybe self-driving cars would be a good thing under certain conditions.

No, this has nothing whatsoever to do with this story.
 
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Wait a second - so a car hit this autonomous car, which has many many many cameras, and then thought it would be a smart move to flee? Don't these cars record almost everything? They have to have the car's plate #
 
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One of Apple's Lexus SUVs outfitted with autonomous driving equipment was involved in a minor car accident on October 15 while being driven in manual mode, and the accident in question does not appear to have been the driver's fault.

According to an incident report filed with the DMV, on Monday, October 15, an Apple test vehicle in manual mode was side swiped while turning left in a dual left turn lane onto Stewart Drive from North Wolfe Road, an area in Sunnyvale, California that's close to the Cupertino company's headquarters.

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Both of the vehicles suffered minor damage, but no injuries were reported. The full text of the accident description is below:This is the second time that one of Apple's test vehicles was involved in a minor traffic accident. Back in August, one of the Lexus SUVs Apple uses to test its software was hit by a Nissan Leaf while attempting to merge in autonomous mode.

Apple, like other companies in California testing self-driving vehicle technology, is required to disclose all autonomous vehicle collisions to the California DMV.

Apple has been testing its self-driving software since early 2017 using Lexus RX450h SUVs outfitted with a host of sensors and cameras. All of the vehicles are piloted by a pair of drivers at all times even when in autonomous driving mode.

We don't yet know what Apple plans to do with its self-driving software, but rumors this year have suggested the company is once again exploring the possibility of a full Apple-branded vehicle that could come out between 2023 and 2025.

Apple is also developing a self-driving shuttle service called "PAIL," or "Palo Alto to Infinite Loop," which is designed to transport Apple employees between the company's offices across Silicon Valley.

Article Link: Apple Self-Driving Car in Manual Mode Involved in Minor Collision That Wasn't Driver's Fault on October 15

Total non-story by macrumors.
 
I got a flat tire within one week of purchase on a new car I bought earlier this year.

BTW, there’s a typo in the title should read “worthless news”
 
The other party must have become intimidated by that forest of camera’s (thinking they got involved in a manhunt of national dimensions)
 
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Well, it’s possible that it wasn’t in manual. (How would they prove it was?) It’s also possible that the driver signed a nda and was paid off. To not hinder any PR for the companies driverless program.
 
Well, it’s possible that it wasn’t in manual. (How would they prove it was?)

I'd bet my next paycheck the car keeps detailed records of when it's driving and when it's not and when that changes. The thought that an automated car is out there driving and not capturing such a basic piece of vital data is absurd. I'd guess they're actually capturing mountains of data. Especially since it's still in the developmental stages.

It’s also possible that the driver signed a nda and was paid off. To not hinder any PR for the companies driverless program.

Sure. And it's also possible that the earth is flat, birds are fake and vaccines cause autism. There's the facts of the case and then there's your opinion. Facts trump opinions, not the other way around. Since you seem to be in the extreme minority here, I'm sticking with the facts until you can provide something other than paranoia as evidence. Not saying you're wrong. Just saying it doesn't seem likely.
 
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Wow, what a headline. It‘s like the New York Times reporting, ”U.S. Senator, outside his official capacity, took two dollars from random guy without understanding he was supposed to be bribed.”
 
Not true. Most of those deaths come from China and India. Guess who can't afford a car let alone a self driving one? All the insane moped riders going the wrong way, pulling out in front of buses, etc. I mean after you see traffic in a major city in China you would be surprised the death toll is that low. It is stunningly bad driving. Invent a self driving moped -or even a moped with self preservation- if you really want those numbers to drop.


I’m confused. Are you suggesting that autononmous vehicles won’t reduce road trauma in developed countries because people in china ride mopeds? Is that your point?
 
I'd bet my next paycheck the car keeps detailed records of when it's driving and when it's not and when that changes. The thought that an automated car is out there driving and not capturing such a basic piece of vital data is absurd. I'd guess they're actually capturing mountains of data. Especially since it's still in the developmental.

Just because google keeps data on all of it’s users - doesn’t mean they will give that data to the public. That’s false reasoning.
They have a stronger reason to lie to the public about the car being in manual, and that it was a hit and run. (Strange that 20 cameras ...with a mountain of data couldn’t see the culprit). Look at the PR nightmare of Uber. Incidents like that could potentially set back automous cars for a decade or more. Comparing PR with flat earth theory is like comparing time-out with nazi ecampment.
 
We need self driving cars. They will dramatically lessen auto deaths and injuries and open our clogged roadways again with smart driving. All this story does is play into our fears of computer driving and will make self driving cars harder to populate the road with. We need POSITIVE stories about self driving cars, and statistics on HUMAN accidents and auto deaths.


Nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled.

This will go WAY DOWN with self driving cars.

Exactly. You have these anti-Tesla people calling for a ban on Autopilot which is ridiculous. If self driving cars became mainstream and the amount of deaths was reduced down to 10k deaths each year (as opposed to 1.3 million), it's worth doing, even if all 10k deaths was caused by self driving. It's not worth waiting until full self driving is "perfect" because millions of people will continue to die each year.
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Not true. Most of those deaths come from China and India. Guess who can't afford a car let alone a self driving one? All the insane moped riders going the wrong way, pulling out in front of buses, etc. I mean after you see traffic in a major city in China you would be surprised the death toll is that low. It is stunningly bad driving. Invent a self driving moped -or even a moped with self preservation- if you really want those numbers to drop.

Tesla's software is probably the only one that can eventually be ported to a moped. All other FSD software seems to rely on LIDAR which cannot be built into a moped.
 
How is this news? Who cares? It wasn't even in autonomous mode and the driver of the test car wasn't at fault.

As it said in the article:
Apple, like other companies in California testing self-driving vehicle technology, is required to disclose all autonomous vehicle collisions to the California DMV.

Until we get inured to seeing autonomous cars, and stop waiting for each one to turn into Stephen King’s Christine, we’re going to get these articles.
 
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Also just a side note, I saw one of those Uber autonomous cars in my town a couple days ago. It was cool.
That because the article is badly written . Just state the Apple car had a driver operating it. Manual mode...... normal humans know it as driving a car.
 
We need self driving cars. They will dramatically lessen auto deaths and injuries and open our clogged roadways again with smart driving. All this story does is play into our fears of computer driving and will make self driving cars harder to populate the road with. We need POSITIVE stories about self driving cars, and statistics on HUMAN accidents and auto deaths.


Nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled.

This will go WAY DOWN with self driving cars.
I‘m not convinced this is true. We see tech fail and being compromised every day. A**holes put a lot of energy into making it fail, and their numbers seem to be increasing. I don’t see a reason why this would be different. On the contrary, I assume this will attract hackers like a turd attracts flies. Additionally, there are slight nuances in drivers‘ behaviour (or appearance) that can warn other human drivers of unexpected behaviour that a computer will probably never recognize. I don‘t have anything to back that up other than personal experience in traffic and technology, but I‘m not confident.
 
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Not true. Most of those deaths come from China and India. Guess who can't afford a car let alone a self driving one? All the insane moped riders going the wrong way, pulling out in front of buses, etc. I mean after you see traffic in a major city in China you would be surprised the death toll is that low. It is stunningly bad driving. Invent a self driving moped -or even a moped with self preservation- if you really want those numbers to drop.
Good point.

In the US it was:
2016 37,461
(With 3,221 billion miles traveled) per Wikipedia
 
How is this news? Who cares? It wasn't even in autonomous mode and the driver of the test car wasn't at fault.
As a company making/testing autonomous cars, Apple is required to report any incident, no matter how small (because the government reasonably wants accurate data on precisely how well driverless cars are doing), and that information is available. You have chosen to read a site dedicated to reporting any interesting bits they can find about Apple, and "Apple Car" is a hot topic, so anything related to such a vehicle is reported. Further, you could filter this unwanted bit by simply reading the headline and skipping on to the next article, instead of clicking to read the full article, then clicking to get into the comment section, then writing a complaint.
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It’s not click bait when the whole correct story is in the title.
"Learn the SHOCKING TRUTH of how someone avoided INSURANCE TROUBLE after COLLIDING with an APPLE CAR using this ONE WEIRD TRICK". There we go, much better headline ;)
 
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I find it hilarious that someone would ever flee the scene of the accident when the car you hit has that many cameras all over it...
 
I’d rather see this story first, rather than the inevitable click bait “Apple Autonomous Car Involved In Collision, Tim Cook to Blame as Steve Jobs Never Would Have Tolerated Failure” article appearing first, followed by the real story a week later after everyone has made up their mind about what happened.
 
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