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Apple Selling New 60W and 240W USB-C Woven Charge Cables
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Most USB-C PD charging cables, not just from Apple, are speced for USB 2.0 and nothing more. There is a different pin-out and different number of copper wires needed for higher data transfer standards which adds on cost, thickness and complexity.
The USB-C charging cables for iPads and Macs are also USB 2.0.
Samsung's awesome USB-C cable is also 2.0
Buy Black Samsung Cable 5A USB C to USB C | Samsung UK
Enjoy fast charging and fast data transmission — at the same time. With up to 100W power delivery (20V/5A), up to 45W Super Fast Charging and USB 2.0 data transfer speeds up to 480 Mb/s, you don†t have to switch cables for optimized performance.www.samsung.com
So the USB controller detects this and limits transfer speeds?
Shame on them for including this with the pro. At least a 40gbps cable appears to be cheap on Amazon.
But Apple's now-deleted 1m USB-C to USB-C charge cable MUF72AM/A did up to 100W according to this review https://web.archive.org/web/20181223054553/http://www.chargerlab.com/archives/1179.html
It was totally thin too like a lightning cable.
I don't understand why the cable is now thick/braided, and can only do 60W charging? What's the advantage of the new cable? They have removed the existing 100W one from the store..
It was totally thin too like a lightning cable.
I don't understand why the cable is now thick/braided, and can only do 60W charging? What's the advantage of the new cable? They have removed the existing 100W one from the store..
People need to spend time looking at the mess of USB C cables. One plug to rule them all but some cables are hobbits, some are dwarves, some are humans, some are elves. We don't talk about the Uruk-hai.Most USB-C PD charging cables, not just from Apple, are speced for USB 2.0 and nothing more. There is a different pin-out and different number of copper wires needed for higher data transfer standards which adds on cost, thickness and complexity.
The USB-C charging cables for iPads and Macs are also USB 2.0.
Samsung's awesome USB-C cable is also 2.0
Buy Black Samsung Cable 5A USB C to USB C | Samsung UK
Enjoy fast charging and fast data transmission — at the same time. With up to 100W power delivery (20V/5A), up to 45W Super Fast Charging and USB 2.0 data transfer speeds up to 480 Mb/s, you don†t have to switch cables for optimized performance.
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Old cable was basically just a charging cable with USB 2.0 - new one has faster data transfer, hence thicker.
$69 for usb 3 transfer speeds on your iPhone. 😐
Amazon basics has one for $10
Amazon basics has one for $10
Look at USB C charging cables from any company. Most only do USB 2 data speeds. It's the unfortunate nature of the market. Apple could have spent a little more and made all cables capable of faster data speeds but the reality is most people (I'll make up a number and say 95%) will use the cables for charging and not data transfer.
One of the issues is Thunderbolt cables or ones that support USB 3 speeds also tend to be less durable because of the extra wiring. See the attached image of some Anker cables. All except the Thunderbolt 4 cable are USB 2.0 speeds. The Thunderbolt 4 cable also only has a "Bend Lifespan" of 2,000 versus 10,000 - 25,000 for the charging cables.
There are options that aren't that expensive that do 100W charging, and USB 3.2 speeds, and supposedly have decent "bend lifespan" (https://www.amazon.com/Cable-QCEs-3-1-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B07T19KQYF) but again, most people will just use the cable for charging so the extra cost for Apple isn't really worth it. It might only be a small expense per cable but that adds up with tens to hundreds of millions of them. Why do that if most people won't use it? Apple could have done it but there are tradeoffs in business. I'm not saying Apple's approach is correct, I'm just offering potential rationale.
Those who need to do data transfer with a cable should hopefully know about the transfer speed issues and buy a cable that will handle faster speeds. There are many options out there.
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crazy about the usb 2 speeds on the regular 15's but then again those who would buy 15s are not ones who will even notice the difference or have need for the transfer speeds. Not making an excuse but I can see why they played that game.
That said, I'll probably stick with a 3rd party cable lol
That said, I'll probably stick with a 3rd party cable lol
No because the only thing about usb that is easy to understand is the connector dimensions. When it comes to transfer rates it’s extremely confusing.
Apple only just added USB-C to the iPhone now. It wasn’t even announced a full 48 hours ago. You okay there sparky??
Spot on!
But... Apparently some people, all of a sudden, are now going to use their phones (or perhaps a network of phones in their home) for finding the next prime number, or to decrypt secret communications from foreign adversaries. That 40 gb/s data rate will greatly improve performance. And WiFi 6 just won't cut it.
I wish they will sell a black option, the only ones they sell are Thunderbolt and thus very expensive
Limits? It just follows standards. It's not going to increase rate of clock sync signals to push more data through a USB 2.0 interface, that would just be madness.
Anyone whose bough cheap TB4-cables ("40gbps") because they need the bandwidth learn to not do that again. The ones that guarantee signal integrity cost money.
I don't see why Apple would include high-bandwidth cables in the box when
A) The demand for doing so has been low even for devices such as the MacBook Pro.
B) Nobody else is doing so.
C) 99% of people will connect these cables to a power-brick for the entire length of the product's life.
I thought it had USB 3 speeds out of the gate - seems like they intentionally slowed it down!
The iPad Air 4th generation and current iPad Mini use the A14 and A15, respectively, and both support USB 3 speeds (albeit only at 5 Gbps).
And very costly to iPhone purchasers, too, which would only benefit the <1% (a made up number) of iPhone purchasers who might actually need that.
Imagine the resulting whinefest should Apple do that.
Agreed but I wish they hadn’t chosen a refresh rate above 60Hz to be a “Pro” feature. Everyone has eyes.
The vast majority of standard iPhone buyers would rather have faster charging than faster data transfer, which is what they did here so if it saves them a little money and lets the prices stay the same, fine.
But at this point 60Hz displays look broken to me. And I don’t think 90Hz displays are that expensive. That would at least help a lot.
Most USB-C charging cables are only USB 2 speeds. The extra wires needed for USB 3 and better specs makes the cables thicker and less flexible.
I've been rocking Anker 515 USB-C to USB-C Cable that supports USB 4.0, has 40Gbps transfer speeds, and supports 240W charging for $35. It works super good!
It very likely is.
By leaving out USB 3's extra wires, which would make the cable stiffer and more fragile, and generally worse for pure charging purposes.