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Would be nice if Apple would lower the price of their USB-C / Magsafe-3 cable. Mine is broken in just 6 months. Not sure if it's covered under Apple Care. Currently it's priced at $49 / € 55.
 
Sooooo they got rid of the 100w USB C charging cable for macs and now offer a lower 60w version for......... im not sure since even a macbook air is 70w.... so that cable wont even power it fully... or go for the overkill 240w version that no macbook can take advantage off since USB C ports are still 100w max only. Meanwhile apple recommends buying their overkill thunderbolt 4 cable at $69 in order to get USB 3 speeds on the new iphone pro.... Man they really went all out on anticonsumer train.
 
That's either a reasonable price or a misprint.

Reasonable price because it probably takes 10x as long as the Anker ones to fall to bits.
 
I got the 240W cable in yesterday, it's thick.
...well, yes, it would need to be if you're going to pump 240W - 5A at 48V - down it.

...and the point that some people are missing is that to also make it USB 3 capable they'd need to squeeze 4 (or 8 for full USB 3.2x2 or USB 4) more wires in there.
 
This isn’t going to end up confusing in the slightest.

So out of the day half a dozen USB C cables I already have is there anyway of telling what maximum speed they will reach?

Or is it just trial and error?
 
This isn’t going to end up confusing in the slightest.

So out of the day half a dozen USB C cables I already have is there anyway of telling what maximum speed they will reach?

Or is it just trial and error?
I am completely lost here. As someone who hasn’t plugged my iPhone in to transfer data in several years, do I need to care about this?
 
So out of the day half a dozen USB C cables I already have is there anyway of telling what maximum speed they will reach?
...and that's always been the downside of USB-C. You may be able to invent "one connector that does it all" but it turns out that the idea "one cable that does it all" is magical thinking.

Yes, there is some price gouging going on but if you're expecting nice, thin, light and flexible cable than can deliver 240W alongside 8 wires carrying high-speed serial data - and is still cheap enough to bundle with, say, a $50 SSD - it turns out that the laws of physics have a say, too, and you have to start making design tradeoffs.
 
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I have a couple of 3m TB4 Pro cables - good to know I can use these for the 'higher' speed with the 15Pro Max......even though I never connect my phone to the computer......and even though USB3 speeds are still pretty poor considering todays standards. I was expecting the Pro Max to interface at 20 or 40Gbps to be fair, especially with the ability to capture ProRes video directly to an external device now.......
Come on now. We at Apple are saving the 20gbs for the iPhone 16 Pro & the 40gbs for the iPhone 17 pro so you all can upgrade
 
This isn’t going to end up confusing in the slightest.

So out of the day half a dozen USB C cables I already have is there anyway of telling what maximum speed they will reach?

Or is it just trial and error?

Trial and error just like it's always been. I have two USB-C cables; the one that came with my iPad Pro that supports fast charging and the junk one that came with an 8Bitdo game controller for the many devices I own that aren't properly USB-C compliant and don't recognise anything decent.

I am completely lost here. As someone who hasn’t plugged my iPhone in to transfer data in several years, do I need to care about this?

No. The cable that comes in the box is capable of fast charging so as long as you pair it with a decent wattage power brick, you're all good.
 
iPads already were capable of 10gbps data transfer so anyone here already using 3rd party cables should be able to suggest good ones that give full speed performance
 
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This isn’t going to end up confusing in the slightest.

So out of the day half a dozen USB C cables I already have is there anyway of telling what maximum speed they will reach?

Or is it just trial and error?
I’ll second the other reply. It’s going to be trial and error. A good bet is if it’s some random relatively thin cable, it’s just USB 2.0 speeds and is mainly for power.

What I’m doing is buying cables that I know the capabilities of and getting rid of the rest.
 
Buy cheaper elsewhere. AAPL is now trying to gouge the whole market that exists on the periphery. A sure sign that AAPL has run out of technology ideas. The iGoggles will be a disaster.
 
No one has mentioned this, but the 60W cable is NOT new. It is the exact same cable that has been shipping with iPad Pros. Maybe other products, but that's the only one I can directly speak to. It is marked 'new' in the store because it is newly back in stock - as of yesterday they were unavailable (I verified this with Apple chat because I was confused by the 'new' marking). The 240W cable is of course an actual new product.
 
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This isn’t going to end up confusing in the slightest.

So out of the day half a dozen USB C cables I already have is there anyway of telling what maximum speed they will reach?

Or is it just trial and error?
Yeah, it's super confusing, especially since it's supposed to be a "Universal" Serial Bus. And why is the latest version USB 4 2.0 and not just USB 5?
 
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I am so goddamn tired of USB-C cables that are limited to USB 2.0 capabilities.

The USB-C spec should have NEVER allowed that. Seriously, what the hell were they thinking???? How many PENNIES does that save to the manufacturing cost anyway?!!

The worst thing with it is that at least with USB-A and B, a simple glance at the connector could immediately tell you if the cable is 3.0 capable. But with USB-C? NOPE.
 
While Apple certainly could have done better with the transition over to USB-C, the USB standards body need to take an awful lot of responsibility for this mess.

The vast majority of people expect that, if a cable fits, it’s the right cable. I had a box full of USB-C cables yet I had no idea which supported USB 2.0 speeds and which supported USB 3.2 Gen 1 or beyond. I also had no idea of the charge levels they support.

I recently decided to trash the lot and buy a bunch of new cables that would work for any purpose. Something that would support USB 4.0 40Gbps and 240W charging. It turns out that those cables are pretty rare, pretty short and pretty expensive. Add to that the unreliability of purchasing cheap, Chinese cables which may not be what they’re advertised to be and you’ve got a problem.

I ended up purchasing a few certified USB 4.0 240W from Cable Matters.

I know that the USB-IF are currently rebranding. I would love to see the data rate and maximum charge rate printed on every cable. I believe that’s now starting to happen. I also believe retailers like Amazon should do more to highlight certifiable products. E.g. to provide a button linking to a particular product’s certification, ensuring that it’s genuine and meets the standards advertised.
The only one here to blame is Apple which is putting proprietary tech into the connector to prevent anyone with standard cables that don‘t contain Apple‘s chosen proprietary Thunderbolt interfaces to be hamstrung.
It left companies with free choices of how to use the connector. We all know what happened when Apple made its choices. Far from beautiful and environmental-friendly, not to mention consumer-friendly.

Typical bean-counting behaviour of milking customers, but is anyone ever surprised?
 
60 watt vs 240 watt…

Does this mean significantly faster charging with the 240 watt cable?
 
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